Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
Lets see how you do in a fight like Twin with that attitude. Go into it with terrible gear or a bad group that somehow managed to get past turn 4, see you how far you get without a form of skill. It takes skill to learn your class and perform to the best of your abilities, it takes skill to get mechanics down and remember them through a month of wipes before you "may" get it. If you think learning mechanics is the only skill based thing about this fight then I'd like to see you get a group together of skilled mechanic dodgers alone and see how far you get.
No one will get past turn 4 in bad gear, it's not really up for debate. Twin wasn't beat until everyone got the mechanics of the fight down(the legit kills) and ran coil enough to get more gear for it. PVE endgame is nothing more than good communication, knowing the fights mechanics, and gear.

I didn't mention knowing your class because that's a given, you could know all about it and still get destroyed because you have no idea how the mechanics of a fight works. End of the day, know the fight, have gear for it, communication. You're still fighting a scripted fight where you know exactly what's coming every single time. So no, I will never consider PVE skill based, to me it's more know your role and the fight. But if that's what your definition of skill is, I won't argue it.