Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[Grym]

Why cannot the hardest content in game, yield a slightly better weapon? The different is even so slight (around half the difference between relic to relic+1) that you most likely won't even notice.

Relic+1 does not take much effort, the quest chain can be done in a couple of hours and the tombs is done in another couple of hours, one of my FC mate is trying to finish full set of relic and he got 3 relic done in 2 days, even the first relic when the game was new did not take a month.

When you compare effort, you need to compare effort for the same group:

Casual non Coil raider:
- relic +1 can take a month or more
- Coil T5 probably will never happen for this group

Raider:
- relic +1 takes a few hours
- couple of months to down T5 initially then may be another 2-3 lock outs to have it on farm, then drop base on RNG

If you look at both style of play and the effort of each group for both relic+1 and Allagon, it should be a no brainer that Coil should yield a slightly better weapon.

[Keyln]

Sorry, but raid gear should always be the better gear, period. Between Allagan and AF+1, my choice here was simply looks, which AF+1 won. Been passing gear in Turn 1-4 to help my fellow team mates who sometimes go DRG. While I decided to purchase the gear, I am still against the idea of being able to buy gear that is on the same level of the best gear in raids. There has to be a driving force in accomplishing content in this game, and simply buying your gear through low item level dungeons is the most boring and lackluster thing you can do. People throw the argument of choices, but this isn't a matter of choice, it is giving proper reward for accomplishing content.This is not a horizontal game, or at least I don't think so. There should be one gear set to rule them all during a period of time. While I put my foot in my mouth while wearing AF+1, that is how I feel about the current situation. I want to see the best gear on players who went through the hardships of the raid or extreme primal battle to obtain it. The work should match the reward. Spamming an easy dungeon numerous times a week for ilvl90 gear is not a good balance.

It's really all quite simple. One takes time while the other takes skill. One is quicker while the other takes patience.

Why shouldn't the two be the same?

Raider:
- relic +1 takes a few hours
- couple of months to down T5 initially then may be another 2-3 lock outs to have it on farm, then drop base on RNG

So...how does the Raider get around the 300 myth cap?

[Grym]

You know what else they could do? Let me maniuplate my stats or customize my character in some manner.

But "the current biggest sub based MMO" (not gonna name it) is doing the reverse, they are taking out stats customisation out next expansion:

- gear will have 1 gem slot max and gems will now be rare
- removing reforge (abilities to change stats around a piece of gear)
- raid drop gear will now be "random stats" (item A drop this week with haste and accuracy but next week it can be crit and haste).

So yeah looks like even "that very big MMO" decided that letting players adjust stats themselves are bad.

[Grym]

It's really all quite simple. One takes time while the other takes skill. One is quicker while the other takes patience.

Why shouldn't the two be the same?

Because that skill needed is much higher than that "patient".

That "patient" you can get done in a couple of hours. If you want to argue that "but some group got Coil on farm weeks ago", then you need to read my previous post. You cannot compare casual's relic effort to raider's Coil effort. If anything, you need to compare Casual's relic effort vs Casual's Coil effort then compare Raider's relic effort and Raider's Coil effort to have a fair comparison.

[Razgard]

I personally hope they just make weapons i95. Myth armor for goons is just too sexy, but I hope you can still mix and match even if they make gear i95.

[Vindicate]

Yeah if they only make ilvl95 allagan weapons, I can see it already:

"Selling Twintania Kill for 5mil"

Also it is tbh totally bullshit, BLM allagan weapon, a gay 1hand sceptre, and where does the shield drop?

[zdub303]

Yeah if they only make ilvl95 allagan weapons, I can see it already:

"Selling Twintania Kill for 5mil"

Also it is tbh totally bullshit, BLM allagan weapon, a gay 1hand sceptre, and where does the shield drop?

Its going to be a while before FCs can actually carry someone through a Twintania kill. I suspect it'll be after 2.2, once Coil 1-5 isnt all that relevant and Relic +2 is ilvl100, obtainable from some other extremely easy to acquire currency.

[Vindicate]

There are already so many groups doing Twin as solo tank, so in fact you can have one pug go for the kill since you dont lose damage at all, everything is possible :P

[Kevee]

There are already so many groups doing Twin as solo tank, so in fact you can have one pug go for the kill since you dont lose damage at all, everything is possible :P

wat?

Yeah you do, you lose a DPS.

Not to mention how easy it is for a pug to wipe the group..

[Airikay]

Yes. Questions?

I'll be signing autographs out back.

Magical considering first coil wins were only about 2 months ago on goblin. Yet you been clearing it for 3 months?