Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[Naunet]

That said, they should really add in a "support" role to go along with DPS/Tank/Heal ones.

For this, they really need to increase party size to at least 5, which I really wish they'd do anyway. >_< Four is so small.

[MartaDemireux]

to many ppl...

That's why I suggested they're changing it to 30ARC/15PGL+ACN. ACN's Resurrection in battle isn't tied to a trait, Virus will lower incoming damage and parry/block values should enemies get them (at least good in PvP), Eye for an Eye will also lower incoming damage, Physick to toss a crappy heal, 5% HP Cured buff to party from PGL. Would be entirely support focused as far as cross class is concerned but could drop one of them (Physick) for Inernal Release if you need/want more DPS.

So I've read the thread but I still haven't figured out the answer to this question. What exactly are they changing about BRD?

They're changing what cross class abilities can be set by BRD.

For this, they really need to increase party size to at least 5, which I really wish they'd do anyway. >_< Four is so small.

They could still get by with 4, the loss of DPS will be sad but we'll still be able to deal respectable damage, just lower burst damage. I agree though that I would prefer 5 so there are 2 people to use the DPS LB instead of just 1 (or sometimes 0 when you get 2 BRDs currently, ugh).

[LemmingKingXXX]

They're changing what cross class abilities can be set by BRD.

I see, in what way exactly?

[MartaDemireux]

I see, in what way exactly?

No specifics have been mentioned yet. I speculate removing LNC and replacing it with ACN but again its just speculation. They have said they wish to lower BRD DPS though, my guess to facilitate Ranger coming as a second job that gets the burst DPS back.

[Lecreuset]

taking away bfb and internal release would lower the dps by alot.. taking away invigorate would just kill it lol

[knite23]

That's why I suggested they're changing it to 30ARC/15PGL+ACN. ACN's Resurrection in battle isn't tied to a trait, Virus will lower incoming damage and parry/block values should enemies get them (at least good in PvP), Eye for an Eye will also lower incoming damage, Physick to toss a crappy heal, 5% HP Cured buff to party from PGL. Would be entirely support focused as far as cross class is concerned but could drop one of them (Physick) for Inernal Release if you need/want more DPS.

and your rite thats a good observation i still low key want us to get cnj back but you have a lot more valid points on why we would get acn totally agree with u everything your saying is true (im very happy im finally talking to someone in this forum who truely knows something about brd and actually play it)

[LemmingKingXXX]

No specifics have been mentioned yet. I speculate removing LNC and replacing it with ACN but again its just speculation. They have said they wish to lower BRD DPS though, my guess to facilitate Ranger coming as a second job that gets the burst DPS back.

If we don't have any specifics, why are so many people raging back and forth over theories? Hell, with the thread title I had assumed that there was some nuance in the live letter that wasn't present in the Q&A Sparknotes which provided some specific information about upcoming adjustments.

[Shikiseki]

The thing I don't get is why do BLM/SMN have bard cross skills.... there's only 1 useful out of 3 which is unfair compared to the usefulness of the current bard.
Even if bards get the Arcanist cross skills they still gain 2-3 useful raid abilities.

This will pretty much entirely replace summoners in the party because even after the nerf, bards will have their spot in every party again. And if they would make our battle-revive a cross-skill, there's no reason to use a SMN since you got BLMs.

But they are still complaining ._____.;

I want SE to make a good rebalance to make EVERY class useful but not 1 class ALWAYS useful like the bard currently is and probably stay.

[MartaDemireux]

If we don't have any specifics, why are so many people raging back and forth over theories? Hell, with the thread title I had assumed that there was some nuance in the live letter that wasn't present in the Q&A Sparknotes which provided some specific information about upcoming adjustments.

Well to lower their DPS they have 3 cross class abilities, Invigorate, Blood for Blood or Internal Release. 2 of these come from LNC, 1 from PGL. To unlock BRD you need 15 PGL. LNC is the additional flavor. This is why the speculation comes out that they'll drop LNC altogether and save it for RNG.

Bard:
We have made adjustments to certain cross class actions that the bards can set.

The bold makes it noted that there will be more than one ability changed. Of course it is still possible that they will drop the base amount of TP Invig gives, the amount of crit IR gives or the damage buff BfB gives since they are enhanced on PGL/LNC anyway via traits and therefor leaving the subclasses unchanged. But then you're weakening LNC/PGL/MNK/DRG substantially as well until they learn their traits. We'll know on the 17th!

[knite23]

For this, they really need to increase party size to at least 5, which I really wish they'd do anyway. >_< Four is so small.

and not really 4 is fine 1 dd 1 healer 1 tank 1 support (which i agree 5 would be better) but really the problem is the game doesnt support a real support job meaning the game isnt really hard enough or technical enough that u neeeeeeeeeeeeeed to have a support job if the ak boss had a debuff that drain mana or tp every 30 secs bards would need to use there mp/tp song and if he had a ability that one shot the tank if u didnt have stone skin or eye for eye up bards would need to have stone skin up or eye for eye so the tank wont die and the healer wouldnt need to waste mana on it cause the mp drain and the song can only do so much and if he did a aoe that would actually one shot u which means if the whm fucks up and gets hit and dies we can cast a suky ass heal to barely win the fight or raise that healer cause hes down before the tanks cds where off and he dies these are examples of mechanics that would make a support job valuable in 2.0 like it was in 1.0 these are mechanics that was left out in 2.0 because they nerfed everything and doesnt want any one class to be needed to do any content i understand ppl dont want hard content and its fucked up to need a certain job to do content but u need tanks u need healers u need dd and u should need support which should be bard or (just theory crafting here but they could make smn a support job also but ppl would nerd rage) all in all there needs to be more technical fight these battles need more depth imo