Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[Leon_Stormrage]

please think before u post stone skin and protect are set values now read there tooltips lol or better yet read your character stats unlike 1.0 there are no longer any stats that increase buffs smh >_<

If I am not wrong there are traits for those abilities and the traits are not shared between classes right?
Yes. I am not wrong

[knite23]

If I am not wrong there are traits for those abilities and the traits are not shared between classes right?
Yes. I am not wrong

and sch does not have those traits which is not a class correction its a job since u want to be technical so yes your wrong whm/sch are jobs not classes and no traits arnt shared between these to jobs which bot are healers which means only whm can cast better buffs i made my point very clear and every party you will be in will not always have a whm but since u replied and failed to read let me repost this and off the record u only have 2 50s archer and acn u dont havent even unlocked all the cross class abilities on bard seeing your drg is 22............... but yet your in here explaing brd but you barely even played the class is obviously your new to the job and game

For the record, a pugilist's stoneskin (10% of target's hp) and protect (Only physical defense) is as strong as an SCH or PLD's, because only whm gets traits to enhance them (18% of target's hp, and protect gets magic defense).

So take some of your own advice.

your rite sir only whm.... it clearly says whm/sch and the point hes tying to make is because brds buffs arnt as strong as whm buffs which i repeat clearly says whm/sch they would never be a reason to use them which is clearly false and understood by anyone who played brd in 1.0 and even now ive been in plenty of parties without any whm the point is supporting is supporting its not about who cast the better buff its about making sure the buffs are up and the healers arnt wasting there mana or time to cast the buff thus the TERM support not only that our support job was to raise anyone who was dead buff them and heal if a healer went down so yes i took the advice and read it but my point is very clear thanks and this is wat i was editing my post with along with that whm are the only ones who can to a better protect and ss but since u had to jump to correct me before i could finish editing it u get my full response lol thanks for the correction though

and this guy doesnt even have archer to 50 where do we keep getting these ppl from

[ChaozK]

Maybe if BRDs wouldnt have access to invigorate, Army's Paeon would become a more viable choice. I would really hope they would just get rid of the dmg penalty on paeon, its in no way as useful as ballad in its current form.

[Zumi]

Possible brd nerf would be to get rid of lnc as cross class and give them back conj like in 1.0. Would make brd have to paeon more of they need tp reducing their damage. Give them some more throw away support abilities a cure and stoneskin.

[Mergadeth]

I wish they would just tell us what they are doing so we can make contingency plans, start rolling on alts etc. Sure okay they can nerf us but how would that improve anything? How is contributing less damage with our party going to help anyone? Battles are a team effort. When you take something vital away from a team member it can only make the team suffer. I respect other classes and they play how they want to play, it doesn't affect me. I'm happy tp hear about buffs for the WAR and DRG. I just don't get how it impacts other people and why they want BRDS to suffer so to speak.

What bothers me the most is the potential to be less useful to my team.

[Husband]

I wish they would just tell us what they are doing so we can make contingency plans, start rolling on alts etc.

Such a kneejerk reaction.

You are going to reroll because of this?

I will still play Bard regardless.

Why change? Just relearn and adapt.

[Fantasy9]

Such a kneejerk reaction.

You are going to reroll because of this?

I will still play Bard regardless.

Why change? Just relearn and adapt.

Says a Goldsmith...

[Fantasy9]

I want to get an answer for this, Since BRDs are only Support and not DPS, if a player only played as ARC would you still take them in your group or would you laugh and deny them? Be honest here because truth be told you would laugh and deny them because they are not playing as BRD. So with this in mind, stop being whiny crybabies that we can do dmg at range and move because we do not have the greatest dmg as it is. To get the same dmg my undergeared DRG gets i have to have every crit and dmg increase buff active at the same time and not to mention we lose 20% dmg with songs. Seriously this community has gone to crap with all the babies that have flocked to it.

[Rose-Wild]

Such a kneejerk reaction.

You are going to reroll because of this?

I will still play Bard regardless.

Why change? Just relearn and adapt.

Wait till people start ditching us like they did with Warrior because we will be useless outside of Coil. And the only reason they will carry us is because of Mages Ballad.

[Mergadeth]

and yeah...if I do nothing but hold groups back after the "adjustment" yeah I MIGHT consider switching classes. Is it just me or does no one but BRD's really like BRD's? I personally think every class has it's place. Why all the hate? I'm probably askign for trouble here but you know what they say about curiosity.