Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[knite23]

to many ppl in here trying to be mr right and make points and only have 1 job leveled or dont even play brd and never even played 1.0 so u dont even know what supporting is on bard once u guys played every job and u see how bards support and how valuable supporting is u will understand but until then its beating a dead horse bards need to be more supporty we have our damage mitigation, we have our mp management, we have our increase healing aoe buff, we have our tp management, and we can increase element damage and we also have A HEAL/RAISE LB...... we need to be able to raise in battle again we need our sucky as heal again we need to be able to buff the party again and most of all we need harder battles so bard supporting role can truely be noticed and shine

[MartaDemireux]

to many ppl...

That's why I suggested they're changing it to 30ARC/15PGL+ACN. ACN's Resurrection in battle isn't tied to a trait, Virus will lower incoming damage and parry/block values should enemies get them (at least good in PvP), Eye for an Eye will also lower incoming damage, Physick to toss a crappy heal, 5% HP Cured buff to party from PGL. Would be entirely support focused as far as cross class is concerned but could drop one of them (Physick) for Inernal Release if you need/want more DPS.

So I've read the thread but I still haven't figured out the answer to this question. What exactly are they changing about BRD?

They're changing what cross class abilities can be set by BRD.

For this, they really need to increase party size to at least 5, which I really wish they'd do anyway. >_< Four is so small.

They could still get by with 4, the loss of DPS will be sad but we'll still be able to deal respectable damage, just lower burst damage. I agree though that I would prefer 5 so there are 2 people to use the DPS LB instead of just 1 (or sometimes 0 when you get 2 BRDs currently, ugh).

[LemmingKingXXX]

They're changing what cross class abilities can be set by BRD.

I see, in what way exactly?

[MartaDemireux]

I see, in what way exactly?

No specifics have been mentioned yet. I speculate removing LNC and replacing it with ACN but again its just speculation. They have said they wish to lower BRD DPS though, my guess to facilitate Ranger coming as a second job that gets the burst DPS back.

[LemmingKingXXX]

No specifics have been mentioned yet. I speculate removing LNC and replacing it with ACN but again its just speculation. They have said they wish to lower BRD DPS though, my guess to facilitate Ranger coming as a second job that gets the burst DPS back.

If we don't have any specifics, why are so many people raging back and forth over theories? Hell, with the thread title I had assumed that there was some nuance in the live letter that wasn't present in the Q&A Sparknotes which provided some specific information about upcoming adjustments.

[MartaDemireux]

If we don't have any specifics, why are so many people raging back and forth over theories? Hell, with the thread title I had assumed that there was some nuance in the live letter that wasn't present in the Q&A Sparknotes which provided some specific information about upcoming adjustments.

Well to lower their DPS they have 3 cross class abilities, Invigorate, Blood for Blood or Internal Release. 2 of these come from LNC, 1 from PGL. To unlock BRD you need 15 PGL. LNC is the additional flavor. This is why the speculation comes out that they'll drop LNC altogether and save it for RNG.

Bard:
We have made adjustments to certain cross class actions that the bards can set.

The bold makes it noted that there will be more than one ability changed. Of course it is still possible that they will drop the base amount of TP Invig gives, the amount of crit IR gives or the damage buff BfB gives since they are enhanced on PGL/LNC anyway via traits and therefor leaving the subclasses unchanged. But then you're weakening LNC/PGL/MNK/DRG substantially as well until they learn their traits. We'll know on the 17th!

[knite23]

That's why I suggested they're changing it to 30ARC/15PGL+ACN. ACN's Resurrection in battle isn't tied to a trait, Virus will lower incoming damage and parry/block values should enemies get them (at least good in PvP), Eye for an Eye will also lower incoming damage, Physick to toss a crappy heal, 5% HP Cured buff to party from PGL. Would be entirely support focused as far as cross class is concerned but could drop one of them (Physick) for Inernal Release if you need/want more DPS.

and your rite thats a good observation i still low key want us to get cnj back but you have a lot more valid points on why we would get acn totally agree with u everything your saying is true (im very happy im finally talking to someone in this forum who truely knows something about brd and actually play it)