Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[whoopeeragon]

Proof please.

4 support-oriented job abilities.
Support-based limit break.

I think those two pretty much nail BRD into place as a more support-role than DPS as the others are.

So why did they change CNJ as subclass for BRD from beta?

Why change WHM from GLA to ACN? Why change BLM from PGL to ACN? Why change DRG from ARC to MRD? Why have change at all? I don't see a point to your question.

[Leon_Stormrage]

4 support-oriented job abilities.
Support-based limit break.

I think those two pretty much nail BRD into place as a more support-role than DPS as the others are.

And we have like 15 more dps abilities I don't see your point...
Bard = DPS role with some utility. Is more supportive than a dragoon for example but it still being DPS

[whoopeeragon]

Whoosh

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You're referring to Archer. Not Bard. Much like Scholar is a healer, but branched off a DPS role. Any class can equip any of the cross-class abilites you mentioned. I did say more support role than other DPS. Not that it is pure support.

Might as well say "Why can't my WHM DPS, it obviously has 5 DPS moves with game's most potent AoE!" because of that.

[Elazu]

wat.

Nope. I was specifically refering to Bards.

BLMs, WHMs, SCHs, SMNs, PLDs can not equip the cross-class abilities I mentioned. WARs can equip one of them. And WHMs can DPS...in WP speedruns.

[Elazu]

nail BRD into place as a more support-role than DPS as the others are.

Perm 10% crit increase. 2 massive DPS boost cross-class abilities from the 2 best DPS classes in the game. 2 massive DPS boost abilities from the Bard. A skill that reduces enmity due to the big burst. A skill that triples auto attack damage. 2 crittable DoTs that can reset a high potency ability that is off the GCD. A TP restoring cross-class ability.

If they intended Bard to be a support class, they shouldn't have given them all these amazing DPS tools.

Now, I personally would prefer Bard to be an actual support class (but then give people who want ranged DPS a Ranger job, since the number of classes in this is a joke as it is), but SE took out the support role and made Bard a DPS class. There are remnants of the support-class plan left (LB, songs) but anyone who says Bard is not mainly a DPS class should think again.

I also don't see the point in giving Bards CNJ abilities...when would one use them? And why? Cure without mind? Stoneskin which only shields 10% when not used by a WHM? I could see ACN being somewhat useful for Eye for an Eye and Virus...but then again, every BLM and WHM has that.

So in my opinion, either give us an actual support role, make parties consist of 5 members (tank-dps-dps-healer-support) and rebalance the whole game or keep Bard as a DPS class.