Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[LemmingKingXXX]

No specifics have been mentioned yet. I speculate removing LNC and replacing it with ACN but again its just speculation. They have said they wish to lower BRD DPS though, my guess to facilitate Ranger coming as a second job that gets the burst DPS back.

If we don't have any specifics, why are so many people raging back and forth over theories? Hell, with the thread title I had assumed that there was some nuance in the live letter that wasn't present in the Q&A Sparknotes which provided some specific information about upcoming adjustments.

[knite23]

That's why I suggested they're changing it to 30ARC/15PGL+ACN. ACN's Resurrection in battle isn't tied to a trait, Virus will lower incoming damage and parry/block values should enemies get them (at least good in PvP), Eye for an Eye will also lower incoming damage, Physick to toss a crappy heal, 5% HP Cured buff to party from PGL. Would be entirely support focused as far as cross class is concerned but could drop one of them (Physick) for Inernal Release if you need/want more DPS.

and your rite thats a good observation i still low key want us to get cnj back but you have a lot more valid points on why we would get acn totally agree with u everything your saying is true (im very happy im finally talking to someone in this forum who truely knows something about brd and actually play it)

[LemmingKingXXX]

So I've read the thread but I still haven't figured out the answer to this question. What exactly are they changing about BRD?

[Lecreuset]

taking away bfb and internal release would lower the dps by alot.. taking away invigorate would just kill it lol

[Shikiseki]

The thing I don't get is why do BLM/SMN have bard cross skills.... there's only 1 useful out of 3 which is unfair compared to the usefulness of the current bard.
Even if bards get the Arcanist cross skills they still gain 2-3 useful raid abilities.

This will pretty much entirely replace summoners in the party because even after the nerf, bards will have their spot in every party again. And if they would make our battle-revive a cross-skill, there's no reason to use a SMN since you got BLMs.

But they are still complaining ._____.;

I want SE to make a good rebalance to make EVERY class useful but not 1 class ALWAYS useful like the bard currently is and probably stay.

[knite23]

The thing I don't get is why do BLM/SMN have bard cross skills.... there's only 1 useful out of 3 which is unfair compared to the usefulness of the current bard.
Even if bards get the Arcanist cross skills they still gain 2-3 useful raid abilities.

This will pretty much entirely replace summoners in the party because even after the nerf, bards will have their spot in every party again. And if they would make our battle-revive a cross-skill, there's no reason to use a SMN since you got BLMs.

But they are still complaining ._____.;

I want SE to make a good rebalance to make EVERY class useful but not 1 class ALWAYS useful like the bard currently is and probably stay.

well smn and blm are full on dd jobs which both do more damage than bard in endgame they have archer for the decrease in hate ability because there supposed to be able to pull hate they have good big burst which brd also has thus the nerf on brd and only really smn can actually play a big supporting role like brd and all jobs have not so usefull cross class abilities its not unfair its balanced i do see ppl take blm over smn because of the burst but a good smn will get picked up without much of a problem ppl prefer blm but i play smn blm and i havent had any issues doing any content ppl want a smn some times and some ppl want a blm edited i forgot Raging strikes which gives u 20% more damage dealt so its hard to argue why blm and smn get archer

[DoctorMog]

While I am a main BRD, and I hate to change things, I think invigorate is the best choice to lose.

It would give me reason to use Paeon.

Now reduce the damage debuff to 10% instead of 20% on paeon and ballad and I'll call it even.

[knite23]

While I am a main BRD, and I hate to change things, I think invigorate is the best choice to lose.

It would give me reason to use Paeon.

Now reduce the damage debuff to 10% instead of 20% on paeon and ballad and I'll call it even.

oh come on doc why inv it really only helps us spam aoe more doesnt really give us damage i like aoe pew pew with blm :_(

[Solitear]

oh come on doc why inv it really only helps us spam aoe more doesnt really give us damage i like aoe pew pew with blm :_(

Even if they nerfed that i'd still want a bard for ballad in speed runs, only time i take different class it be smn or another blm for giggles >_>.