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    Player
    Hiruke's Avatar
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    I think it's a huge mistake to nerf BRD. MNK and BLM (with equivalent gear) should already be able to easily outclass BRD in terms of dps in any fight that isn't over in like 10 seconds. Which is fine, because they have a lot of unique utility they bring to the table, but they aren't so crazy overpowered as they need some kind of nerf.

    I also think MNK and DRG are going to easily outclass BLM after they get buffed, and BLM will start to lag behind. Currently MNK and BLM are the heavy hitters, and MNK and BLM seem about equal (even with both having to move around in most fights of note).

    Just seems like it's going to get messier before it gets cleaner at this rate. Good luck, SE.
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    WiseWolfHolo's Avatar
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    I think it's a huge mistake to nerf BRD. MNK and BLM (with equivalent gear) should already be able to easily outclass BRD in terms of dps in any fight that isn't over in like 10 seconds. Which is fine, because they have a lot of unique utility they bring to the table, but they aren't so crazy overpowered as they need some kind of nerf.
    I too find it a mistake to nerf bard, but going to assume it means we will either loser pugilist or lancer cross tree, either of which is bad and we are not taken to dungeons because of our dps, we are taken for our support ability. Oh let us not forget to buff the highest dps class in the game monk, that was pretty dumb. Although going to assume in the future BLM will become the highest dps just because if you can get spell speed to a number that is so fast you either can move at the last moment to not interrupt or have spell speed so fast you can just mash buttons faster than it will become the highest no question.
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Considering they hardly gain any benefit from CNJ, i would assume thats where the change is, but I may be wrong on that. (Honestly they should be allowed to equip Cure, despite how useless it would be)
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    Miss Wildfire
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Will more than likely be a Blood for Blood nerf, that paired with Raging Strikes gives such a huge boost, lol.
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    Valor Ferrer
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonyB View Post
    Will more than likely be a Blood for Blood nerf, that paired with Raging Strikes gives such a huge boost, lol.
    Wait, I'm not sure I understand this one... "BRDS are more useful than melee DPS, so nerf Melee DPS"
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    Miss Wildfire
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Telsyr View Post
    Wait, I'm not sure I understand this one... "BRDS are more useful than melee DPS, so nerf Melee DPS"
    Where did I say that? They are talking about changing the cross abilities that bard can use............................................

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    They will probably remove Blood for Blood or Internal Release from hes cross class abilities.... or maybe both.... This would destroy Bards DPS.

    And all just because the average player is horrible at playing Melee and cries about Bard being OP, when Monks can do way more damage and they are getting huge buffs...
    Pretty much cause melees are bad we get called OP so they get buffed and we get nerf'd slightly. All DPS classes can do more than BRD if played right.
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    Vylandra Postop
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonyB View Post
    Where did I say that? They are talking about changing the cross abilities that bard can use............................................



    Pretty much cause melees are bad we get called OP so they get buffed and we get nerf'd slightly. All DPS classes can do more than BRD if played right.
    Sure, in IDEAL situations. You're forgetting that melee are punished by each and every ability that enemies use. While this is going on BRD and BLM and SMN are sitting back PewPewing away without a care in the world while DRG and MNK watch their DPS fall down into abysmal numbers because if they don't dodge they die. It's not people being "bad" it's boss mechanics being EXTREMELY flawed. Sure, a DRG or MNK will easily out dps you if they're able to actually keep up a stable rotation, but that just doesn't ever happen.
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    Miss Wildfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amocoru View Post
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    Only situation this happens is Titan. Everything else like, you know actually content like coil then DRGs, SMNs & BLMs all stomp BRD if played right. Just because you look at 1 situation that BRDs can beat people that makes them OP? So I should scream that SMN is OP cause they drop buffs on turn 1 boss and can do 2x the damage cause of 2 mobs? It's a PvE game, not like 1 being slightly better means anything. If it was a true PvP game then of course it matters, but yeah PvE and all.
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    Yaladilae Hallucinate
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    Cerberus
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Telsyr View Post
    Wait, I'm not sure I understand this one... "BRDS are more useful than melee DPS, so nerf Melee DPS"
    They could always script it to say BFB increase melee dmg by 20% and ranged dmg by 15% for example

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I won't be surprised if they switch LNC for CNJ or ACN. More support, less damage
    If they do that, please make medica a cross class ability, and change mage ballard to decrease dmg by 20%, but increase determination by 20%

    Bard Group heal FTW, muahahahahah
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    Last edited by diulalasing; 11-23-2013 at 12:52 AM.

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    Rose Wild
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 80
    They will probably remove Blood for Blood or Internal Release from hes cross class abilities.... or maybe both.... This would destroy Bards DPS.

    And all just because the average player is horrible at playing Melee and cries about Bard being OP, when Monks can do way more damage and they are getting huge buffs...
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