Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Mirakumi]

That same exact formula would not work with the communities of today.

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

[LiadansWhisper]

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

Well, your biggest problem is that many of the players playing FFXIV are not XI players, and quite a few of them never had any desire to play XI. Yet you're pitching this like somehow XI is the be-all, end-all of games. The truth is, it's not. FFXIV has already surpassed XI's peak numbers, and XI's peak numbers were never anywhere near the numbers in other MMOs like Everquest, World of Warcraft, Star Wars, or Rift. Many of the players playing XIV are from those MMOs, and have no desire to play a game like XI. After all, if we wanted to play XI, we'd be playing XI...right? Right.

Also, lol, you couldn't pay me to DF Titan HM. Totally not worth my time.

[Jean]

"Q10: Will you be able to form your own alliances and enter Crystal Tower?

A10: In patch 2.1 you will not be able to form your own alliance. You can enter with a party of eight."

Dumbest thing ever. I do not want to be forced to use the duty finder to find the other 16 people. Why in the hell wouldn't you be able to enter with your own pre-made group of 24 (or alliance of 3 8-man parties). After hearing this I'm considerably less enthusiastic about Crystal Tower since now you'll have to deal with the nonsense of random people in Duty Finder......

There really is no excuse for this. The fact that you can't do Duty Roulette with friends is just as outrageous.

It doesn't matter that they're planning to fix it later. There is no excuse for content being released in this state after 3 and a half months.

[Lecreuset]

Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower RIGHT OFF THE BAT. They'll add it later

holy shit people complaining about everything.

[Swishytail]

If they were going to make anything 24 man content it should be AFTER coil not before and have them cut away people for it.
Edit:
It makes no sense for it to be 24 -> 8 man Pt. It should have been 8 man PT -> 24 people.

I understand what you're saying, but eventually it's going to loop around either way.

2.2 = more coil turns = 8 man.
2.3 = more CT floors = 24 man.

So on so forth. So regardless of how it's done, there is going to be both 24 and 8 overlapping each other.
Which is why I don't understand why we are staying limited at 8. From what I understand they are making
24-man alliances possible in the future, which would be great. Right now some people think it sucks, including
myself, which is fine.

A lot of people have small FCs that are fine with it, some have 50-100 members that were really looking forward
to being able to FC raid with 24 people. It's just one of "those" topics.

[Mirakumi]

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You'd be surprised how many people pay for a titan win, and that's a waste of time. Also I did not mean FF11 as the be it all, high and mighty. I played FF11 for a good long time, followed by SW/WoW/Aion/Rift etc. I did not mean anything but simply. Everyday there's numerous of people getting things done and progressing. To think Crystal Towers won't bring any of these people in is silly. If CT offers story - I promise you people will go back from Coil to see it. Or just to say they did it. I know I will be. ^^

[Verius_Nox]

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

Okay, firstly, stop with the ad hominem. Secondly, I was not referring to skill or anything of that nature. I was referring to how a community functions, with respect, and courtesy towards one another as players. That worked in FFXI because of that particular era. Now-a-days, that kind of behavior is a lot less common.

[Mirakumi]

Okay, firstly, stop with the ad hominem. Secondly, I was not referring to skill or anything of that nature. I was referring to how a community functions, with respect, and courtesy towards one another as players. That worked in FFXI because of that particular era. Now-a-days, that kind of behavior is a lot less common.

Well I'm sorry you see it that way. My perspectives of this game has been a breath of fresh air. In WoW when DF came out people out right slammed the person down and would refuse to do anything until that person left. In 14 for me people have not been anything like that - at least the server I'm on - people will try to help you out. I guess it's all about the people you run into.

[Giantbane]

There really is no excuse for this. The fact that you can't do Duty Roulette with friends is just as outrageous.

I'm not sure why they *should* make Duty Roulette work with friends. It's a great tool to provide incentive to play and help out random strangers. You don't *NEED* to do the duty roulette to get your weekly myth cap. You can still SR WP with your friends if you like that route. But this gets you helping out others that may need help finding groups for story battles or even just normal dungeon runs.

[Verius_Nox]

I'm not sure why they *should* make Duty Roulette work with friends. It's a great tool to provide incentive to play and help out random strangers. You don't *NEED* to do the duty roulette to get your weekly myth cap. You can still SR WP with your friends if you like that route. But this gets you helping out others that may need help finding groups for story battles or even just normal dungeon runs.

What is wrong with having the option?