Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[KiriA500]

Man, some people will defend anything. They pretty much plain stated 24 man alliance for CT WILL NOT be available at 2.1 launch. What else do you want to know?

This is pretty much inexcusable, I could make alliance years ago in XI, why does this game go backward?

The vanity system also isn't available in 2.1. Does that mean it's never coming out? Nope!

We've gone three months without 24-man content, yet suddenly it's inexcusable to not have a feature for it? lol

[Pacifer]

The vanity system also isn't available in 2.1. Does that mean it's never coming out? Nope!

We've gone three months without 24-man content, yet suddenly it's inexcusable to not have a feature for it? lol

Lot of people are on the edge of quitting cause of the lack of raid content , and been really looking forward to CT even if it's easier and less rewarding , Compared to the Coil , which we clear in one night over the course of 1 hour .

We shaped our Fc upon a 3 raid setup , and we're really looking forward to play as a whole , , been forced to pug2/3 , won't really hold us until the next next next next fix , whit still only the coil as reliable content to do .

And i can imagine this situation for a lot of other endgame fc .

[Taruranto]

The vanity system also isn't available in 2.1. Does that mean it's never coming out? Nope!

Yeah, well, I look forward doing it with my FC when they'll implement an alliance system. Too bad I'LL BE FORCED TO PUG in the meanwhile.

We've gone three months without 24-man content, yet suddenly it's inexcusable to not have a feature for it? lol

You know FFXI? That game with an alliance system that came out 11 years ago.

Oh yeah, let's not forget CT should have been out 3 months ago too.

[KiriA500]

It's pretty stupid that even after being delayed this long they still wouldn't have something that essential be available when CT launches. People have been recruiting in their Free Companies in preparation for it and then they say that you'll only be able to take 8 of your friends and the rest have to be randoms. Even if they do add the option in a future patch it's still a slap in the face for those that were looking forward to doing CT with their friends/FC.

Do you happen to have a quote from SE saying that we'd be able to queue for this dungeon at the same time with three parties at the very beginning? As far as I know, we've only been told it was 24-man content. I think most of this anger is based around false assumptions.

I should add: yes, I think it's really stupid that we can't form three parties and enter as an alliance. It's not worth getting mad at the addition since we haven't been told we could do so in the first place.

[Robinthehood]

Um....people have a right to be angry about this since its a complete and utter idiotic decision to force people to use the duty finder instead of letting them form their own 24 man group of either fc members, linkshell members, or friends like it is in every other similar mmo in existance.

Stop mindlessly defending a company when they make a stupid mistake or decision cause it doesn't help the game...it only hurts it.

[Eekiki]

Um....people have a right to be angry about this since its a complete and utter idiotic decision to force people to use the duty finder instead of letting them form their own 24 man group of either fc members, linkshell members, or friends like it is in every other similar mmo in existance.

But that isn't what people are saying. The people who you say are "defending" it are for the most part saying that this isn't their "decision". This is just how it's gonna be at first, because it will take some major reprogramming of the duty finder and party system to make it possible. Don't forget that Crystal Tower was supposed to be in the game at release. If they delay it anymore they might as well not even bother releasing it.

We spent time working together building up a strategy for CT when it comes out

I call BS. How could you "build up a strategy" for CT? You have no idea what the mechanics of the place are at all.

[Robinthehood]

But that isn't what people are saying. The people who you say are "defending" it are for the most part saying that this isn't their "decision". This is just how it's gonna be at first, because it will take some major reprogramming of the duty finder and party system to make it possible. Don't forget that Crystal Tower was supposed to be in the game at release. If they delay it anymore they might as well not even bother releasing it.

To hell with all that nonsense. SE should already have that shit coded and programmed into patch 2.1 ESPECIALLY since it was supposed to be out since release. theres no excuse for this ridiculousness this time around.

[Thriar]

But that isn't what people are saying. The people who you say are "defending" it are for the most part saying that this isn't their "decision". This is just how it's gonna be at first, because it will take some major reprogramming of the duty finder and party system to make it possible. Don't forget that Crystal Tower was supposed to be in the game at release. If they delay it anymore they might as well not even bother releasing it.

Whoa whoa so you are saying they programmed DF to not work with their 24 man content before it's released. Stop white knighting. They knew they had 24 man content. Why didn't they program the DF to handle 24 people queuing up for CT in a pre-made. Jesus, just listen to yourself. This should've been programmed from the get-go. Reprogramming it shouldn't even be a discussion. It should have never happened in the first place.

[Ryios]

I call BS. How could you "build up a strategy" for CT? You have no idea what the mechanics of the place are at all.

Stategy, as in we have 3 solid groups of 8 past turn 4 in BCB ready to go to crystal tower together, and now we find out we can't.

I'm seriously thinking about just making my Own FC and I'll recruit 7-8 people and just have 1 core 8 and nothing more.

[DenialWhisperer]

They've already made it clear that they want all the "solo" players to be a part of the community in their own way... Though I do find that raiding dungeons are meant for premade groups of friends which is why I find it weird that they pretty much force FC's to split up just to do what they were formed for in the beginning. Guess the best we can do is await SE's explanation and hope that it'll change in time, question is, when they do open up the 24-man dungeons for a premade group, will we all be too tired of the place? Is it that easy that most of us have already farmed it in pugs for so long that we can't be bothered with it? Or is it going to be opened up in time for a new dungeon? SE shouldn't adapt the game too much to the people who can't find groups and indirectly punish the more motivated and "hardcore" players. Just look at WoW, fully adapted to make 5 year-olds manage it all, do we truly want a community like that in FFXIV?