Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Jinrya-Geki]

I find it weird that some people are ok with this? Have you not played very long with friends with this? I always felt bad that not everyone could join in events because of it being 4-8 man in the linkshell.

The only reason I can see Crystal Tower being 8-man party then the rest duty finder is to make it a pseudo-difficulty. It would be harder to do it because of communication, not everyone use mumble, Ventrilo, etc. It's easier to recover from a mistake when someone can tell you rather than sending a message via party chat.

[Swishytail]

So because Coil is 8-man we should just make everything 8-man? What kind of thought process is that?
May as well just make the entire game 8-man and have 1,000 FCs with 8 people in each of them on all
the servers. What's the point otherwise?

[Mirakumi]

So because Coil is 8-man we should just make everything 8-man? What kind of thought process is that?
May as well just make the entire game 8-man and have 1,000 FCs with 8 people in each of them on all
the servers. What's the point otherwise?

If they were going to make anything 24 man content it should be AFTER coil not before and have them cut away people for it.
Edit:
It makes no sense for it to be 24 -> 8 man Pt. It should have been 8 man PT -> 24 people.

[Swishytail]

If they were going to make anything 24 man content it should be AFTER coil not before and have them cut away people for it.
Edit:
It makes no sense for it to be 24 -> 8 man Pt. It should have been 8 man PT -> 24 people.

I understand what you're saying, but eventually it's going to loop around either way.

2.2 = more coil turns = 8 man.
2.3 = more CT floors = 24 man.

So on so forth. So regardless of how it's done, there is going to be both 24 and 8 overlapping each other.
Which is why I don't understand why we are staying limited at 8. From what I understand they are making
24-man alliances possible in the future, which would be great. Right now some people think it sucks, including
myself, which is fine.

A lot of people have small FCs that are fine with it, some have 50-100 members that were really looking forward
to being able to FC raid with 24 people. It's just one of "those" topics.

[Jean]

"Q10: Will you be able to form your own alliances and enter Crystal Tower?

A10: In patch 2.1 you will not be able to form your own alliance. You can enter with a party of eight."

Dumbest thing ever. I do not want to be forced to use the duty finder to find the other 16 people. Why in the hell wouldn't you be able to enter with your own pre-made group of 24 (or alliance of 3 8-man parties). After hearing this I'm considerably less enthusiastic about Crystal Tower since now you'll have to deal with the nonsense of random people in Duty Finder......

There really is no excuse for this. The fact that you can't do Duty Roulette with friends is just as outrageous.

It doesn't matter that they're planning to fix it later. There is no excuse for content being released in this state after 3 and a half months.

[Giantbane]

There really is no excuse for this. The fact that you can't do Duty Roulette with friends is just as outrageous.

I'm not sure why they *should* make Duty Roulette work with friends. It's a great tool to provide incentive to play and help out random strangers. You don't *NEED* to do the duty roulette to get your weekly myth cap. You can still SR WP with your friends if you like that route. But this gets you helping out others that may need help finding groups for story battles or even just normal dungeon runs.

[Verius_Nox]

I'm not sure why they *should* make Duty Roulette work with friends. It's a great tool to provide incentive to play and help out random strangers. You don't *NEED* to do the duty roulette to get your weekly myth cap. You can still SR WP with your friends if you like that route. But this gets you helping out others that may need help finding groups for story battles or even just normal dungeon runs.

What is wrong with having the option?

[Giantbane]

What is wrong with having the option?

Because you can do any of those dungeons/battles in the Duty Roulette with your friends if you want to. You just don't get the bonuses because you premade your party instead of playing with all randoms.

Ideally playing with friends should allow you to work together, clear the dungeons and earn the rewards faster than you would have by playing with randoms so it's balanced in that regard.

[Jean]

Because you can do any of those dungeons/battles in the Duty Roulette with your friends if you want to. You just don't get the bonuses because you premade your party instead of playing with all randoms.

Ideally playing with friends should allow you to work together, clear the dungeons and earn the rewards faster than you would have by playing with randoms so it's balanced in that regard.

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Q36: Can you use with the Duty Roulette with a party of 2-3 people?

A36: This is a feature that can currently only be used solo. We will be updating this in the future to support parties with multiple people.

The developers see no issue with having the option. They're just failing to implement it in 2.1 with no given reason.

[Lecreuset]

Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower RIGHT OFF THE BAT. They'll add it later

holy shit people complaining about everything.