Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Warku]

Because they'd rather give it to you now, and fix it so that you can have more people, rather than tell you to wait another 6 months for it to come out in the next patch. yay!

Except they knew they were making this 24 man content over 2 years ago. One would expect party creation systems to be working properly over that amount of time in development. Not to mention this patch has already been delayed by 30% of a patch 2.5-3 month cycle.

[Arale]

I beg to differ. At launch there was incessant crying over the earliest PT content being at level 15, starting city being tied to starting class, and character creation being locked due to servers being full. All of this under the banner of "I can't play with my friends."

And lo, it did not come to pass.

That's early game though. This is end game. They're very different. That wouldn't deter people's subs, but if the journey at the end cannot be attempted with friends, then that will. Also the game has lost a lot of subs between launch and now as evidenced by the accounts that are registered without subs. So it in fact did happen, albeit for a myriad of other reasons. My point still stands though. If you limit people from playing with eachother, they will quit.

[Zenogias]

WOW. This is HORRIBLE!!!! SQUARE?! I've been defending you for over a year on this game, and in return you just COMPLETELY KILLED THE PLANS OF 75% OF RAIDING FREE COMPANIES FOR NO REASON!!!

Why would you NOT ALLOW an FC to run Crystal Tower together?!?!?! WHAT POSSIBLE REASON IS THERE FOR THIS OTHER THAN TO DESTROY YOUR PLAYERBASE?!

I have no idea what to think at this point, this is the biggest F.U. I have ever seen at a playerbase in an MMO. This is just bad. REALLY REALLY bad.

[Hiruke]

I don't see the point in making "alliance" content if it's really just party content topped off with a smidgeon of alliance interaction, especially if you can't even premake the parties you're going in with. So, you go in with an all star party, but then the other 2 parties are terrible, so you're stuck not being able to proceed until they proceed, or what? Or maybe people in those other parties decide, hey screw it, and drop. Then you're waiting for other people to match in and fill those spots? Hoo boy. I can't wait! 4 person dungeon DF is already scary, how is that going to be better when you're absolutely guaranteed 16 randoms?

I'd like to see alliance content where you actually do stuff as an alliance. The best way I've heard this game described is something like "FFXIV - Me and my 7 friends". Wouldn't it be nice if you could do stuff with other people in your FC besides like, 4 man myth runs or something? Haha. Well, too bad! NOPE!

[Eekiki]

WOW. This is HORRIBLE!!!! SQUARE?! I've been defending you for over a year on this game, and in return you just COMPLETELY KILLED THE PLANS OF 75% OF RAIDING FREE COMPANIES FOR NO REASON!!!

Why would you NOT ALLOW an FC to run Crystal Tower together?!?!?! WHAT POSSIBLE REASON IS THERE FOR THIS OTHER THAN TO DESTROY YOUR PLAYERBASE?!

I have no idea what to think at this point, this is the biggest F.U. I have ever seen at a playerbase in an MMO. This is just bad. REALLY REALLY bad.

It's posts like this that are the reason I wish SE would just shut down the forums. It goes like this.

1. Devs post or say something

2. ADHD community spins it so they have something to butthurt over

3. People read the butthurt and ignore what the devs said. Butthurt expands exponentially.

4. Butthurt is accepted as fact.

Stop it. Learn the whole story before you throw a tantrum.

[jObEfiSH]

It's posts like this that are the reason I wish SE would just shut down the forums...

It seems like you are WAY more butthurt and upset than anyone here, the main thing is they actually are upset because they wan't to enjoy the game more and see it improved and did not see it coming that they would not be able to run CT with the FC group they have set up to run together. They actually have a reason to be a little upset and express it, you on the other hand just are just a massive angry troll.

[Esrahadon]

This... REALLY SE? ... Just... come on... I'm trying to have faith in you here. I love the game so far, but why are you even releasing a 24 man raid that you have to pug 2/3 of? I guess it was wrong of us to assume we could run with our free company when we first heard CT was going to be a 24 man. Shame on us for assuming you could do this right. I was actually excited about CT even though BC is giving better loot. But with 2/3 of the raid forced to be duty finder pugs this is just disgustingly terrible planing.

I don't even mind puging people. If the Duty Finder pulled people in exclusively from your own server, I wouldn't mind, because I'm helping people I'll interact with again. But why do I care about people outside of my server community, that I will never have any sort of interaction with again? Sure, they might be awesome people and lo, maybe I'll actually enjoy CT with some groups (given what I can expect from duty finder so far, this seems unlikely). But why do I care and why would I make friends with someone I'm never going to talk to again?

[Orophin]

Don't see what the problem is, if you doing everything with just Friends and FC, where is the Challenge and fun in that? Like wise, if you just easily down CT after a day of released then will you be complaining of nothing to do? Party with others, make some friends and communicate. You can already que up with 3 of the 4 party already, this almost Garantee a win already.

This is the dumbest post I've seen in this entire thread. Your idea of challenge is grouping up with random people in the duty finder because you're inevitably going to get grouped with subpar players? How about make the actual content challenging.

Excuse me while I go plant my face into my desk now.

[raelgun]

this really annoys the hell out of me, the game should be encouraging banding together with like minded people to do content, also whats wrong with weekly lock outs, i mean wow raiding does it well, and lots of mmos have followed suit, and its a system that works, having 10-14 boss raids are epic, and some bosses may take a few nights of work to get down each, thats how you keep people doing something, you dont need every instance to be cleared in 2 hours. its fine to take like 3-4 months to finally clear the content with no gating

[Amocoru]

"Q10: Will you be able to form your own alliances and enter Crystal Tower?

A10: In patch 2.1 you will not be able to form your own alliance. You can enter with a party of eight."

After reading this I have completely lost interest in all 2.1 content. It looks like I'll continue to login only twice a week to get Myth tomes and run coil. The disappointment just builds up over and over with this game. I LOVE the game at its core but I'm tired of all the ridiculously flawed mechanics and lack of content for no reason. Please stop re-releasing things that were in the old game like King Moogle Mog. Nobody cares about those silly moogle items. You know why we were excited about every expansion(outside of Abyssea) in FFXI? Because we got upgrades from EVERYTHING. Including the lesser content like the Add on scenarios. If the game continues to move backwards like this it will be dead within the next year and that makes me very sad