Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Lum]

This is just another slap in the face to anyone trying to run a FC and plan for future content. There is zero reason to join a FC at this this point when a static LS of 8 will get the job done. I'm just gonna assume at this point that we wont ever get any content that will require more than 8 people to complete at the end game level.

[AjoraOak]

Well, I find it strange people are so upset in a way just because CT was junk to begin with... but yeah, for those trying to make a FC 24man capable with intent of running CT in prep for Coils (rather than making them farm philo), big slap I suppose.

[LiadansWhisper]

I'm extremely disappointed by this. :-\ It pretty much kills my desire to raid CT.

[Mirakumi]

My idea is that SE realized that making Crystal Tower a 24 man FC was a mistake considering the after content, Coil, is an 8 man PT. Telling a new formed FC to cut ties of their 24 man and sort them out by favoritism for Coil content is silly. This new system of bringing 8 people in will secure that static party and help them brace up for Coil.

Please Note:

VENT/TEAMSPEAK/MUMBLE/Raidcall - Might not be accessible to these other 16 players and they might be uncooperative.

OR

This could bring the community together in someways and alliances with other FC's across servers or in your own server.

We don't know this yet so we will have to wait.

I guess what they want is for players to be more open minded and trying to bring together the community together.

In FFXI being grouped with random people was what they had to do to win. [FFXI had a strong community]

In FF14 Crystal Towers, players will experience the everyday life of FFXI grouping and they will either hate or love it.

[Verius_Nox]

In FFXI being grouped with random people was what they had to do to win. [FFXI had a strong community]

That same exact formula would not work with the communities of today.

[Mirakumi]

That same exact formula would not work with the communities of today.

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

[LiadansWhisper]

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

Well, your biggest problem is that many of the players playing FFXIV are not XI players, and quite a few of them never had any desire to play XI. Yet you're pitching this like somehow XI is the be-all, end-all of games. The truth is, it's not. FFXIV has already surpassed XI's peak numbers, and XI's peak numbers were never anywhere near the numbers in other MMOs like Everquest, World of Warcraft, Star Wars, or Rift. Many of the players playing XIV are from those MMOs, and have no desire to play a game like XI. After all, if we wanted to play XI, we'd be playing XI...right? Right.

Also, lol, you couldn't pay me to DF Titan HM. Totally not worth my time.

[Mirakumi]

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You'd be surprised how many people pay for a titan win, and that's a waste of time. Also I did not mean FF11 as the be it all, high and mighty. I played FF11 for a good long time, followed by SW/WoW/Aion/Rift etc. I did not mean anything but simply. Everyday there's numerous of people getting things done and progressing. To think Crystal Towers won't bring any of these people in is silly. If CT offers story - I promise you people will go back from Coil to see it. Or just to say they did it. I know I will be. ^^

[Verius_Nox]

And why not? This game was brought together by many strong MMO communities. Believe it or not. If your going to sit there and say this game is going to hell because you cannot grasp the existence of other MMO players being competent then your logic is nothing. I did a Titan duty finder the other day and we managed to pull it together and win. Half of these players weren't even geared. It blew my mind, maybe crystal towers will blow yours.

Okay, firstly, stop with the ad hominem. Secondly, I was not referring to skill or anything of that nature. I was referring to how a community functions, with respect, and courtesy towards one another as players. That worked in FFXI because of that particular era. Now-a-days, that kind of behavior is a lot less common.

[Mirakumi]

Okay, firstly, stop with the ad hominem. Secondly, I was not referring to skill or anything of that nature. I was referring to how a community functions, with respect, and courtesy towards one another as players. That worked in FFXI because of that particular era. Now-a-days, that kind of behavior is a lot less common.

Well I'm sorry you see it that way. My perspectives of this game has been a breath of fresh air. In WoW when DF came out people out right slammed the person down and would refuse to do anything until that person left. In 14 for me people have not been anything like that - at least the server I'm on - people will try to help you out. I guess it's all about the people you run into.