Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Molly_Millions]

The butthurt is temporary. People will bitch and use the DF, ditching random parties until they get matched with their FC mates, and people will make due until the next patch. This is just the latest and greatest thing to be butthurt over. I'm guessing if people leave, they were likely just looking for a reason to leave anyway.

Sure, I'm disappointed, but there is still a way to play with my friends in CT. Next patch the issue won't even exist. You never know, SE may see threads like this and decide the fix needs to go out with a smaller bugfix patch.

[Taika]

What many people don't seem to get is CT is the only available endgame content for those who are unable to do Coil for one reason or another (in other words, only real endgame content for more casual players). These people have nothing to do with their FC communities other than cap their tomes every week and do the occasional relic.

What I expected CT to be was content all our FC members would do. Something that wouldn't require the gear and skill and commitment level Coil does and something that would bring both Coil runners and fresh relic (or even pre-relic) members together. A FC event these members could take part in. These people have already waited for a long time to have any casual endgame raiding content they could do with the FC. Now they get the message they'll be waiting for months more.

[YuriRamona]

The butthurt is temporary. People will bitch and use the DF, ditching random parties until they get matched with their FC mates, and people will make due until the next patch. This is just the latest and greatest thing to be butthurt over. I'm guessing if people leave, they were likely just looking for a reason to leave anyway.

Sure, I'm disappointed, but there is still a way to play with my friends in CT. Next patch the issue won't even exist. You never know, SE may see threads like this and decide the fix needs to go out with a smaller bugfix patch.

This is a terrible attitude to approach this update with. People ditching the DF to play with their friends? This ruins the experience for everyone involved. And it is indeed very likely to occur. Shouldn't we all feel "butthurt" by the likelihood of other players ruining the dungeon?

The points raised in this thread are saying that there ARE solutions that would prevent players from, inevitably, ruining other peoples' experience. Are you suggest that everyone just deal with the change and run through when the inevitable trolls, bought accounts, AFKers, and general mayhem-causers are grouped with you? Or are you suggesting that somehow, these people won't find their way on to the DF? Are FC and pre-made groups not entitled to be fed up with non-cooperative antics that WILL occur?

[Molly_Millions]

This is a terrible attitude to approach this update with. People ditching the DF to play with their friends? This ruins the experience for everyone involved. And it is indeed very likely to occur. Shouldn't we all feel "butthurt" by the likelihood of other players ruining the dungeon?

The points raised in this thread are saying that there ARE solutions that would prevent players from, inevitably, ruining other peoples' experience. Are you suggest that everyone just deal with the change and run through when the inevitable trolls, bought accounts, AFKers, and general mayhem-causers are grouped with you? Or are you suggesting that somehow, these people won't find their way on to the DF? Are FC and pre-made groups not entitled to be fed up with non-cooperative antics that WILL occur?

Don't confuse my realism with pessimism. I'm not the one saying I'm going to leave over this.

Here's what I see happening; FC A creates 3 parties of 8 who all queue up for the DF at the same time. Given they are full parties, they stay in those parties, but they may not end up in the same instance. So all three parties leave to queue up again since groups that entered together are not hit by the 15 min wait timer. They can continue this until all 3 parties end up in the same instance.

[Karupika]

cmon SE, thats so stupid >< Our FC was preparing for weeks to raid it together!

[BalthierLove]

The first of many repeated QQ threads. The next days are going to be even harder in General Land.

And yet I agree with you, shall we eat popcorn?

EDIT: Btw, the already mentioned they can't implement for a party for able to made 24-maned just yet, they are currently WORKING on it. So basically, stop QQ'ing.

[Arriverderci]

How unfortunate.

Thanks SE, i'm really amazed at your ideas. Seriously? Who in their right mind could have fortold THAT? Now i can't raid with my FC, something everybody was looking forward to. Instead i have to stick with my 8-man team i'm raiding with for all the other content. Seems like i have to continue doing so, huh? That is actually kinda stupid, what a let down, lol.

Feel my pain.
I have to wait 6 months for my own damn house.
We all get let down some of the time lol. At least they will change in 2.2 right?
I personally do not care here because I don't mind queing with DF.
In all seriousness, this is kinda stupid but oh well.

[Zaiken]

Don't see what the problem is, if you doing everything with just Friends and FC, where is the Challenge and fun in that? Like wise, if you just easily down CT after a day of released then will you be complaining of nothing to do? Party with others, make some friends and communicate. You can already que up with 3 of the 4 party already, this almost Garantee a win already.

[Ryios]

I call BS. How could you "build up a strategy" for CT? You have no idea what the mechanics of the place are at all.

Stategy, as in we have 3 solid groups of 8 past turn 4 in BCB ready to go to crystal tower together, and now we find out we can't.

I'm seriously thinking about just making my Own FC and I'll recruit 7-8 people and just have 1 core 8 and nothing more.

[Arland]

Thanks SE, i'm really amazed at your ideas. Seriously? Who in their right mind could have fortold THAT? Now i can't raid with my FC, something everybody was looking forward to. Instead i have to stick with my 8-man team i'm raiding with for all the other content. Seems like i have to continue doing so, huh? That is actually kinda stupid, what a let down, lol.