Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Kaizlu]

The amount of butthurt over a slightly delayed aspect of one part of the patch is getting rather hilarious.

If you have a large FC that wants to run 24 man premades ....

Wait one more patch for that functionality!

In the meantime, the rest of us who don't mind playing with strangers will enjoy what Crystal Tower offers.

But we already waited 3 months (will be almost 4 by the 17th) for CT, and now to wait more?
I understand that people must be patient but come on, this is crazy.

And it's not about playing with strangers, it's about not being able to play in a full-FC alliance party.

[Sylve]

If this is such a problem thats worth quitting over, then ... quit? I don't see the problem. You don't like it. No one forces you to pay the sub. So quit and find another MMO that gives you what you want?

Tell people this when waiting for money from unemployment or even other MMOs that has a lack of end-game content. "Don't like it? JUST WAIT! KEEP WAITING!"

Go on, let me know the results.

How does welfare payments or a lack of content got to do with the current subject? The content is there, you CAN run it with 3 groups of 8 from your FC members, takes a bit of luck, but the possibility IS there. Yoshi stated bluntly that they didn't get the 24 man premade done in time, so it'd be coming after CT launches.

Release content that 95% of players will enjoy, or hold back completed content because 5% cant play it the way they want to?

[OrionInerghem]

This is the most shocking, worst, horrible, Idea I've ever heard from the FFXIV team.


A MMO you can only play with 8 people?

If the PS3 isn't the reason why they did this, then Yoshi can tell us all right now.

This seriously has me reconsidering my longterm investment in XIV.

[Suellen]

The way I read/saw it was this really isn't going to be true 24 man content. It'll be 3 parties of 8 doing their own thing with their own objective with their own loot. Even looking at screenshots, you can see 3 divided platforms, 3 "bosses" per room, etc. Only the last boss seems like it'll be the only boss where you'd potentially need just 2 tanks.

gotcha so kinda like the 2 party missions in GW1.

[Naunet]

If you have a large FC that wants to run 24 man premades ....

Wait one more patch for that functionality!

We shouldn't have to wait another 3-4 months for something that should be out now. A large part of CT's appeal was that it finally offered something for larger FCs to do as a group, rather than splitting people up into smaller sub-groups. That appeal is now gone.

[Talynia]

When did anyone ever start assuming it was going to be anything but duty finder centric? They mentioned duty finder repeatedly ever since they first spoke about it, and said its not like Coil. I could tell from the beginning that something like this was going to go on, especially since they had originally intended it as pathed content before coil. You use DF for everything else but Chimera, Hydra, etc.

People are massively over reacting to this. Most FC's I am aware of could not even muster 24 whole people for such an event.


No choice was taken from you, it was never stated to begin with, and it should have been assumed you would use DF the entire time.

Your comment basically says how dare people think they can run content with friends when it comes out because SE said from the beginning it will be through DF!

Even if there are only X amount of FC's that could potentially run CT as a whole you can't discount the number of LS people have formed to run CT. Telling people they are overreacting to not being able to do content they have been planning months to do with their FC or LS is kind of silly.

The DF is supposed to be an option and when 2.1 comes out until whenever they actually finish the alliance party thing its a requirement if they want to do the content. That is what has people the most upset.

[Invz]

I wont play CT if I am forced to play with anyone other than a full 24 man from my FC. I refuse to do endgame content with random people and this is why. I dont trust the skills of random people. I have played with many people from my FC since 1.0 release. I trust them and know their skills. Secondly, I won't do endgame content with people I can't invite to mumble, vent, TS. I dont want to make my mumble server public. Thirdly, I dont want to share loot drops with random people. Playing the dungeon with 16 random people from other servers opens the door to much griefing, trolling, ninja looting.

[Thriar]

I wont play CT if I am forced to play with anyone other than a full 24 man from my FC. I refuse to do endgame content with random people and this is why. I dont trust the skills of random people. I have played with many people from my FC since 1.0 release. I trust them and know their skills. Secondly, I won't do endgame content with people I can't invite to mumble, vent, TS. I dont want to make my mumble server public. Thirdly, I dont want to share loot drops with random people. Playing the dungeon with 16 random people from other servers opens the door to much griefing, trolling, ninja looting.

I wouldn't worry about the difficulty of CT being so hard a DF group couldn't kill it in one session. Loot is per party, so you can still make a pre-made of 8 and sort your loot however you want. But that doesn't make up for the fact you can't bring in a pre-made of 24 people like you said and get more loot for your FC in a more productive manor.

[Sylve]

I wont play CT if I am forced to play with anyone other than a full 24 man from my FC. I refuse to do endgame content with random people and this is why. I dont trust the skills of random people. I have played with many people from my FC since 1.0 release. I trust them and know their skills. Secondly, I won't do endgame content with people I can't invite to mumble, vent, TS. I dont want to make my mumble server public. Thirdly, I dont want to share loot drops with random people. Playing the dungeon with 16 random people from other servers opens the door to much griefing, trolling, ninja looting.

Each 8 player group has its own personal loot ...

So you don't like playing with people outside your little circle? Cool. Thats your choice. Theres people who like playing with random people. I'm one of them, and im sure im not alone.

So far, I have never been griefed in in a dungeon or any of the Primals. Maybe im just lucky like that. But groups i end up in are always calm and fun.

Why don't you give an example of 'griefing' that would occur in the Tower?

[Fyce]

I wont play CT if I am forced to play with anyone other than a full 24 man from my FC. I refuse to do endgame content with random people and this is why. I dont trust the skills of random people. I have played with many people from my FC since 1.0 release. I trust them and know their skills. Secondly, I won't do endgame content with people I can't invite to mumble, vent, TS. I dont want to make my mumble server public. Thirdly, I dont want to share loot drops with random people. Playing the dungeon with 16 random people from other servers opens the door to much griefing, trolling, ninja looting.

You're a living definition of xenophobia applied to MMORPG games.
Congratulations.