Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[YuriRamona]

The butthurt is temporary. People will bitch and use the DF, ditching random parties until they get matched with their FC mates, and people will make due until the next patch. This is just the latest and greatest thing to be butthurt over. I'm guessing if people leave, they were likely just looking for a reason to leave anyway.

Sure, I'm disappointed, but there is still a way to play with my friends in CT. Next patch the issue won't even exist. You never know, SE may see threads like this and decide the fix needs to go out with a smaller bugfix patch.

This is a terrible attitude to approach this update with. People ditching the DF to play with their friends? This ruins the experience for everyone involved. And it is indeed very likely to occur. Shouldn't we all feel "butthurt" by the likelihood of other players ruining the dungeon?

The points raised in this thread are saying that there ARE solutions that would prevent players from, inevitably, ruining other peoples' experience. Are you suggest that everyone just deal with the change and run through when the inevitable trolls, bought accounts, AFKers, and general mayhem-causers are grouped with you? Or are you suggesting that somehow, these people won't find their way on to the DF? Are FC and pre-made groups not entitled to be fed up with non-cooperative antics that WILL occur?

[Molly_Millions]

This is a terrible attitude to approach this update with. People ditching the DF to play with their friends? This ruins the experience for everyone involved. And it is indeed very likely to occur. Shouldn't we all feel "butthurt" by the likelihood of other players ruining the dungeon?

The points raised in this thread are saying that there ARE solutions that would prevent players from, inevitably, ruining other peoples' experience. Are you suggest that everyone just deal with the change and run through when the inevitable trolls, bought accounts, AFKers, and general mayhem-causers are grouped with you? Or are you suggesting that somehow, these people won't find their way on to the DF? Are FC and pre-made groups not entitled to be fed up with non-cooperative antics that WILL occur?

Don't confuse my realism with pessimism. I'm not the one saying I'm going to leave over this.

Here's what I see happening; FC A creates 3 parties of 8 who all queue up for the DF at the same time. Given they are full parties, they stay in those parties, but they may not end up in the same instance. So all three parties leave to queue up again since groups that entered together are not hit by the 15 min wait timer. They can continue this until all 3 parties end up in the same instance.