Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[Pellegri]

I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.

So why do you need the best gear then if you're not even wanting to do the content that would require it? Dailies sure as hell won't need it and any content below coil can be done in ak or darklight, so why do you feel you HAVE TO HAVE the best gear in the game?

[Tribunus]

So, good king moggle seems to be easier then HM titan, but drops better equipment?

I hope extreme primal drops ilvl 90 wep or something...

Theres a quest coming that involves extreme primals in obtaining a weapon.

[Maqaqa]

Also Yoshida stated that weapons from Extreme modes will be ILvl 90 so those 3 weeks of capping for your +1 relic will be wasted. I Have a +1 relic myself so i am certainly upset.

I am very happy about this. Variety and not just tiers!

[Zumi]

Makes sense that the bis gear would drop from the hardest raid. This is a good change, because running an ilvl 55 dungeon a bunch of times for level 90 myth gear which will be even easier to get 2.1 doesn't seem right. Best gear should come from the hardest raid. I too passed allagan to for someones alt job but I guess I would need it now.

[zPanda]

Also Yoshida stated that weapons from Extreme modes will be ILvl 90 so those 3 weeks of capping for your +1 relic will be wasted. I Have a +1 relic myself so i am certainly upset.

What if the battles are so difficult that it takes most people longer than 3 weeks to defeat it? You would also need to be lucky and have the weapon you want actually drop and then win the roll for it. Not sure if people have forgotten but back in 1.0, the *hard* mode battles for Ifrit and Garuda were more difficult than they are now; in fact when the servers shut down, there were many people who had never defeated hard-mode Garuda yet. The %age of people who actually defeated Extreme mode Ifrit in 1.0 was much lower than that.

I think there's still quite a bit of the population who still haven't defeated *hard* mode Titan legitimately (not bought/carried) in 2.0 as well. I think people are really jumping the gun when they assume that they will simply be able to win/grind *extreme* mode primals and farm weapons there right away.

One idea I would propose to make everyone happy is that extreme-mode primals also drop a "totem" of some sort when you win. With x number of totems (5, 10, whatever.., you would able to purchase an upgrade for your relic+1 weapon to turn it into an IL95 "relic+2". This would also provide another IL95 weapon upgrade path besides Coil Turn 5 and give the game some variety in that regard.

[NyneAlexander]

Sorry guys. I know people are pissed but the majority of people here have played multiple MMO's in the past.

This kind of stuff happens all the time.

Gear gets changed. Nerfed. Buffed. New gear comes out and makes old gear obsolete. This has happened in every online game I can remember playing in the last 10 years. No one here should be shocked. No one should be pissed that you wasted tombstones on AF2 because it was bound to become obsolete at some point. (And it still isn't obsolete. Its just not the absolute BIS. You'll still be able to rock all available content.)

Besides, not having BIS anymore gives some hardcore peeps something to do now. Isn't that what people have been bitching about? Not having anything to do?

[Fantasy9]

Except for the fact they said nothing about extreme primals dropping weapons, they said you will get a weapon at the end of a quest, not from the bosses themselves. He did however talk about "showing off" with what you get from them and since they talked about primal armor at one point it would be best to assume that is the kind of showing off he was talking about.

Q57: You can obtain weapons for the hard mode primal battles, but what kind of rewards will there be for the extreme-modes?

A57: When you clear extreme-modes for Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan, you'll be able to obtain an item level 90 weapon as a reward. We've prepared weapons for each job.

[Allyrion]

My only problem is that AF and relics have not and never was considered to be a final set of gear. I hope AF2 and relic (+2/3) will be the hardest and highest level gear to attain for a while.

I'd be fine if they just removed allagan weapons and added a drop from Twintania that improved your relic. Though that'd be a waste of the allagan model.

Story gear > random drops from a box
I don't mind difficulty. I mind the loot not having any real background. Especially the weapon.

[Airikay]

Q57: You can obtain weapons for the hard mode primal battles, but what kind of rewards will there be for the extreme-modes?

A57: When you clear extreme-modes for Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan, you'll be able to obtain an item level 90 weapon as a reward. We've prepared weapons for each job.

For clearing ALL 3. Its a quest, not each drop 90 weapons.

[Fantasy9]

For clearing ALL 3. Its a quest, not each drop 90 weapons.

Hope your right...