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  1. #91
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    Drakzen1's Avatar
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    Lynx Yamaneko
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    Aslo coil being hard is subjective...
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  2. #92
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    Ralemont Eisenzahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bichcat View Post
    I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.
    Wrong, there are still plenty of ways to obtain good gear, but if you want the BEST gear you'll have to run the hardest content. Go figure.

    This is just QQ'ing about not being able to run mindless dungeon grinding and be on pair with Coil raiders anymore.
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  3. #93
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Sorry but Top End gear was never Relic gear Alone it is a mix of Relic And Allagan.



    I have a relic+1 for my MNK and I would rather have the Allagan.
    Well then, I don't agree with you as a person either!
    I posted about this before as well. They can make the model transform to be more powerful and for the stats to change.
    None of that really matters.
    All I'm talking about is that I don't like magical gear from boxes with no context.

    Relic upgrading is the closest thing to a sense of gear permanence and symbolism. I think they should milk it.
    And forget about anyone who disagrees with me.

    EDIT:
    At least making upgrades to the gear drop from boxes gives the sense of that you're using the power of your enemies to improve yourself rather than say.....picking up a shirt from the giant dragon twintania.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 11-23-2013 at 02:00 AM.

  4. #94
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    Molly_Millions's Avatar
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    AF 1.5 better than Allagan. Really? REALLY?
    In some cases yes, it currently is better. It depends on the piece however. Some are interchangeable because they have exactly the same stats. For example, here's the gear I'm going for http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/5138/WAR-...ptimal-Jewelry I chose AF2 pieces due to ACC, which is highly desirable in Coil.
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  5. #95
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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Well then, I don't agree with you as a person either!
    I posted about this before as well. They can make the model transform to be more powerful and for the stats to change.
    None of that really matters.
    All I'm talking about is that I don't like magical gear from boxes with no context.

    Relic upgrading is the closest thing to a sense of gear permanence and symbolism. I think they should milk it.
    And forget about anyone who disagrees with me.
    not trying to be a D here, but you should really consider GW2. Its very similar gameplay, plus you can spend 2 days farming gold and buy a full set of dungeon level gear, plus alter its looks.

    If you dont like the RNG, there SHOULD be a dungeon token system, but you should only be able to obtain those tokens from THAT dungeon.. allowing you to get ilvl90 gear from anything less was a really bad move to begin with
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    Last edited by Hanabira; 11-23-2013 at 02:04 AM.

  6. #96
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    Fantasy9's Avatar
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    Geovana Fletcher
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    then you have gear just as good as the coil gear.. but you have 0 endgame experience and youre still bad, then what? beginner coil groups gather all the time. plus you could always make your own. But to say that you shouldn't have to do hard content to get the best gear because you are too soft to learn how to do it is ridiculous and detrimental to the health of the game. What happens when ilvl110 gear comes out and you have to do content harder than coil? are you going to cry that you cant obtain it from WP? If you didnt take part in coil and learn the gameplay lessons it taught you, its unlikely you can handle content after it.
    I love how you are saying we want best gear and not do Coil because we are, as you put it "soft". If you read my post then you would know that it isn't because we are soft it is because nobody that does Coil successfully wants to run with someone new. Just doesn't happen anymore.
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  7. #97
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    Resa Nome
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Really hope we can get some clarity in this change and if it is going to actually impact all Allagan items as we have been passing Allagan to secondary and tertiary jobs because main jobs already had the slot filled by mythology items.
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  8. #98
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    not trying to be a D here, but you should really consider GW2. Its very similar gameplay, plus you can spend 2 days farming gold and buy a full set of dungeon level gear, plus alter its looks.
    I played GW2 till end game. It's a decent game, but I don't like it nearly as much as this one.
    Also, I don't think it should be as easy to get gear as it is in GW2.

    For example, I'd have preferred if AF1.5 was obtained from Coil. There would be items in the box that turned your AF1 gear into 1.5.
    That is gear permanence. If an allagan chest dropped off Twintania, the item to turn your AF to 1.5 would've dropped there instead.

    Allagan could have been the vendor gear.

    That's not going to happen, but that's what I'd have liked.
    GW2 is very different. And I also didn't like their end-game very much.
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  9. #99
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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasy9 View Post
    I love how you are saying we want best gear and not do Coil because we are, as you put it "soft". If you read my post then you would know that it isn't because we are soft it is because nobody that does Coil successfully wants to run with someone new. Just doesn't happen anymore.
    Do what everyone else did, should to make a beginners group or watch the videos over and over and pretend youre experienced.. It cant "not happen anymore" because yesterday i spent an hour at the toll and 3 different groups were gathering first timers for turns 1 and 2. Also, shout that you want to start a coil static, I did that and its worked out great.
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  10. #100
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    Tatsuya Nekomiya
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    i95 gear for allagan gear why not , but with the actual lock out system , i desagree , because only luckiest players wil loot , game only designed by limitations and rng , i don't find this funny but frustating .... and that more when all weeks same ppl get their loots when u didn't touch a single peace of gear for month -_-.
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    Last edited by Reyki; 11-23-2013 at 02:46 AM.
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