Battle Reform Blueprint

[TheVedis]

Challenging= A better Game
Challenging is what people want right?...
People say they want something.. and then when they do it.. the some people hate it
Me confused... :/

People: We want skill chains for more SP for quicker kills!
SE: ok here you go
People: Damn you SE now we get too much, take it away

People: Can we have more NMs
SE: Here you go, 20 rank 30 NMs
People 1: SE you messed up again, they arent endgame NMs
People 2: What do you mean, not all of us have 50s, we will kill them and be happy at 30
SE: More NMs coming
People: It better be damn endgame ones

People: Give us endgame dungeons!
SE: here you go
People: Only 1? wtf are you thinking
SE It takes time to make them
People: We want 8 years worth of dungeons 5 days ago, get on it!

[Firon]

I don't get why people get bothered to use party strats when they are in a party but then after the pt you can do what ever you want with your class its only for party play and promotes fast killing is all.

Like i remeber in XI had this pld who wanted to be a DD on pld he obviously playing the wrong job be cause even with right gear pld DD was OK but never over the top dmg same thing with rdm yes it was forced to be a refresher and debuffer but outside of pt RDM could Tank Heal play support and even Nuke with he all the correct gear and subs.

Aslo as an side note if you don't know Almost ever FF game to Date RDM has always been a better magic user and a sub par melee class just stating this before someone comes and says RDM never has been good at both equally in ever FF its been cause that's bs.

[Starlord]

People: We want skill chains for more SP for quicker kills!
SE: ok here you go
People: Damn you SE now we get too much, take it away

People: Can we have more NMs
SE: Here you go, 20 rank 30 NMs
People 1: SE you messed up again, they arent endgame NMs
People 2: What do you mean, not all of us have 50s, we will kill them and be happy at 30
SE: More NMs coming
People: It better be damn endgame ones

People: Give us endgame dungeons!
SE: here you go
People: Only 1? wtf are you thinking
SE It takes time to make them
People: We want 8 years worth of dungeons 5 days ago, get on it!

haha, Yep that's exactly to the point how this community sounds. I chuckle everytime when they ask for something, and then they don't want it after its been implemented for them haha!

[TheVedis]

haha, Yep that's exactly to the point how this community sounds. I chuckle everytime when they ask for something, and then they don't want it after its been implemented for them haha!

its not just this community
its every MMo community in existance

[Starlord]

its not just this community
its every MMo community in existance

I only played 2 MMOs FFXI and FFXIV, FFXI wasn't nearly as bad as this. and its only this way right now because its F2P, once the game gets good, and start actually paying for it, it will weed out all the trolls ( at least thats what I hope happens) till then I have to stick it out lol.

[Physic]

Fix'd this for you.

strict classes are challenging to find every person you need to play. Not challenging to play, dont mistake difficulty for your type of class system. Why is it more challenging to be a pure role? i think its actually more challenging when you have the ability to do more than one thing, and you have to actually decide what to do, what your good at, and how to make it work.

For example, the other day i was bored soloing, so i asked random people to party with me on leves, one was an archer 3 levels higher than me. Being that i dont like going weak, i sought to make the monsters at least 10 levels higher than her, of course you can always choose exactly so they ended it up 12 levels higher than her, 15 and 16 higher than the glad tank. 3 people glad pug archer,

It was fairly challenging, the mobs hit like bricks, and their aoe sleeps slows and blinds put us in danger numerous times, many a person was saved in yellow with a last second cure from another player, and people woke up people with cure, and then that person usually woke up the other one. It was way more challenging than if one of us was a pure healer, in that case i could have relaxed and just done DD, i wouldnt have to tank some mobs, throw an occaisonal heal to the tank or the archer who had hate, or try to cure people awake, it was fairly challenging (compared to normal play) probably even more so because we didnt have a pure healer, with which it would be easy sauce.

strict classes arent challenging in and of themselves.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Oh I want the strict classes, because I enjoy the challenge, the reason why I was fixing ZephyrAM's post.

[TheVedis]

I only played 2 MMOs FFXI and FFXIV, FFXI wasn't nearly as bad as this. and its only this way right now because its F2P, once the game gets good, and start actually paying for it, it will weed out all the trolls ( at least thats what I hope happens) till then I have to stick it out lol.

11 didnt have official forums, thats why you didnt see it as much

ddo is pretty bad with this kinda complaining
champions is pretty bad with it
wow is probly the worst with it(sure they have alot, but EVERY time something new comes out there are complaints a few days later about how its already been beaten)
aion is bad with it


if the game has official forums, everyone sounds the same

tons of demands and ultimatums to the devs like they have the ability and time to respond to every post made
everyone thinking they are the voice of the world
everything demeaning everyone else about their opinions

and everyone is a game developer who knows everything about everything and how it works

[Quisi]

haha, Yep that's exactly to the point how this community sounds. I chuckle everytime when they ask for something, and then they don't want it after its been implemented for them haha!

Or maybe people want a finished feature not one which was designed during lunch break.
you know It's just an idea..

[Physic]

Oh I want the strict classes, because I enjoy the challenge, the reason why I was fixing ZephyrAM's post.

strict classes dont equal challenge, unless searching for one person is the type of challenge you like