Battle Reform Blueprint

[Physic]

I dont think it was lame at all. Theres no reason a warrior type class should be able to heal better then a conjurer.... even if he is higher. The whole mix and match abilities system is broken and this is what creates these problems. Sure im all for being able to use abilities from different classes but you have to limit it. A Gladiator should be stuck at using cure I and II no more or even not being able to use cure at all but can use different melee type of spells.

once again, he will not be able to heal more than a conjurer. just by being a sub skill the same cure is way weaker. there is an idea out there that the cure spell is just as effective on sub, it is not, there is a lot of fallacies associated with cross class skills, they are less potent, less acurate and have more recast. go test this stuff out, go see, it isnt hax on subjob.

[TheVedis]

once again, he will not be able to heal more than a conjurer. just by being a sub skill the same cure is way weaker. there is an idea out there that the cure spell is just as effective on sub, it is not, there is a lot of fallacies associated with cross class skills, they are less potent, less acurate and have more recast. go test this stuff out, go see, it isnt hax on subjob.

and they cant be aoe so you are only able to really self heal
dont forget that

you basicaly are gimped by using cross class skills, but no one recognizes that

[kukurumei]

and they cant be aoe so you are only able to really self heal
dont forget that

you basicaly are gimped by using cross class skills, but no one recognizes that

Which doesn't make a difference, because the skill is still unbalanced. Which is obvious since it's so often used, and so well used.

Added to stamina, animation, skill points, etc it becomes more unbalanced, because, "Oh i'm out of stamina, pop a cure" situations, or any number of situations makes it a game of cheating redmages.

It's basic theorycrafting but with no practical proof of workability.

Developers quickly realized that it was unsustainable broken concept that the solution would create exponentially more balance problems.

You are in rough multiplication wise of class skills X cross class combination X stats X stamina X future skills X future classes X future weapons X enemies scenarios X etc.

Each one of them possibility unbalancing the already unbalanced system, all requiring constant audits by live breathing human minds.

It's easily one of the rookie-est mistake developers can make. The armoury system, the skill system, the stat system, the battle system. They were not just -not- working from release, they won't work ever without massive upkeep, which means it would never work from a practical standpoint.

[Physic]

Which doesn't make a difference, because the skill is still unbalanced. Which is obvious since it's so often used, and so well used.

Added to stamina, animation, skill points, etc it becomes more unbalanced, because, "Oh i'm out of stamina, pop a cure" situations, or any number of situations makes it a game of cheating redmages.




It's basic theorycrafting but with no practical proof of workability.

Developers quickly realized that it was unsustainable broken concept that the solution would create exponentially more balance problems.

You are in rough multiplication wise of class skills X cross class combination X stats X stamina X future skills X future classes X future weapons X enemies scenarios X etc.

Each one of them possibility unbalancing the already unbalanced system, all requiring constant audits by live breathing human minds.

It's easily one of the rookie-est mistake developers can make. The armoury system, the skill system, the battle system. They were not just -not- working from release, they won't work ever without massive upkeep, which means it would never work from a practical standpoint.

what you said, doesnt make sense. what does it have to do with animation skill points and stamina?

what does the stamina cost of cure have to do with cross class?

You do realize there are a number of games with cross class skills, and with multiple classes being able to heal right?

Guildwars1 guildwars 2 wow FFXI ff2-13 Champions Online and i havent even played that many games.

[Sorel]

Added to stamina, animation, skill points, etc it becomes more unbalanced, because, "Oh i'm out of stamina, pop a cure" situations, or any number of situations makes it a game of cheating redmages.

... those dirty stinking lying cheating red mages. Ruining another FF-MMO!

BTW, that is sarcasm. I use it so rarely on these forums, so I thought I should note the occasion.

[Firon]

I like Sorel cause i thought RDM was best one they made in Xi was extremely OP in all area's but someone on these forums didn't think so <.<

[DeadRiser]

Why do you suppose that is?



I took the time to Rank up both gladiator to 50 and thaum to 50, and soon to have marauder at 50. I should be able to use most of whatever from either of these classes on each other. I got Sac III, i should be able to add it to my classes r48 and above. If other people dont want to take the time to rank something up to get new spells and skills, that their own damn problem. less power to them - literally.

Yeah but when you have no one doing what they are supposed to do to contribute to the party, that's where you need class outlines. I think some of the crossing class skills promotes solo play and I don't really want them doing that. I'm all for strict classes. Whoot Whoot

[ZephyrAM]

But.. but..

Strict classes are Boring!

[OMEGA_HACK]

But.. but..

Strict classes are challenging!

Fix'd this for you.

[Starlord]

Fix'd this for you.

Challenging= A better Game
Challenging is what people want right?...
People say they want something.. and then when they do it.. the some people hate it
Me confused... :/