Lower Level Dungeons Harder than WP / AK

[Grailer]

or do it in Bathing suits

heh yeah tried that , some BLM got sadface because he couldn't do as much dmg as he could if I was full DL and bailed .

[Vydos]

Let's make this clear. AK and WP aren't easy dungeons. They became easy because everyone and their grandmothers knows the dungeon by heart. And repeated them over and over again.

I'll just say the following thing. I belonged to the first group of people rushing through the storline. Which also meant that I did all the dungeons(except for Praetorium) with people that had never done it before. And didn't had access to the gear most of us have now. And many people that were there can testify that some of us wiped and didn't clear the dungeons.

I failed AK twice due to tonberry king and his rancor mechanics that none of us understood at the time. And many parties wiped at Demon wall. And not only because the dps was subpar. But because people couldn't dodge the lanes and didn't know when repel was coming. And I'm also guessing that people wiped at the dragon as well.

Long story short, the dungeons were hard. But we've all done them many times to the point it became a walk in the park.

[Claire_Pendragon]

There is a reason people hate Tiered item levels for endgame progression.

It ruins the difficulty of lower iLv dungeons.

Level sync wont work, they need item level sync.

[Aedra]

Low level dungeon hard ??

The only 2 problems I've seen so far are
1. People refuse to teach and listen to each other.
2. FATE runner.

AV Last boss: I don't think it is too hard to just eat fruit, avoid Bad Breath and aoe fruit down isn't it?

Temple Last boss: I don't think it is too hard to kill everything that pop isn't it ?

Darkhold Last boss: Hm... avoid black floor and red line... hard ? Oh wait, tank might pull boss to the whole group and get his aoe spin that's why it seems hard.

[Sinaloa]

tldr

The whole game is easy if you do it in gear according to the lvl of the content you are doing. Lowlevel dungeons often seem to be harder becourse ppl join them with average itemlevels 20+ benath the dungeon. An exception might be that doom-boss or golden vale. The issue there is that often ppl join with an average IQ 20+ points below the base human.

[Grailer]

Low level dungeon hard ??

The only 2 problems I've seen so far are
1. People refuse to teach and listen to each other.
2. FATE runner.

AV Last boss: I don't think it is too hard to just eat fruit, avoid Bad Breath and aoe fruit down isn't it?

Temple Last boss: I don't think it is too hard to kill everything that pop isn't it ?

Darkhold Last boss: Hm... avoid black floor and red line... hard ? Oh wait, tank might pull boss to the whole group and get his aoe spin that's why it seems hard.

Tanking AK last boss , stand in corner hit 123 123 123 123 get bored or healer forgot that you needed a heal ? pop some cooldowns .. 123 123 123 no need to even move .
Tanking WP last boss , stand in middle hit 123 123 123 123 , boss got 3-4 stacks , pop some cooldowns .. 123 123 123 . no need to even move .

Tanking ST last boss, 123 123 123 123 123 run around like your life depends on it dodge lazers and frontal AOE
Tanking AV last boss, 123 123 move fast out of AOE or get debuff of death , 123 .. crap eat some fruit , crap frontal AOE ... avoid ... 123 crap he ran off to spawn adds . crap more AOE ... omg need more fruit .. omg frontal AOE .. oh yeah 123 123

I think almost every dungeon you have to move to avoid mechanics ... except for lvl 50 dungeons .

[TirionCrey]

They really need to increase the difficulty of WP and AK , right now it is so boring running these dungeons mainly due to the zero lack of skill needed to do them .

I recall that a lot of lower lvl dungeons being ALOT harder than these end game dungeons .

Why would they make game get easier instead of harder ? Coil being the only other challenge but that is locked out most of the time so useless.

Your lvl is synced in lower lvl dungeons, so is your gear. So you can NEVER outgear it. AK/WP are easy because people outgear them.

Easiest example...with my current gear I lose 2k HP on my PLD when I enter Aurum Vale, which is synced to lvl49...so just 1 lvl below cap to get full benefit of my gear...

[SpookyGhost]

I think almost every dungeon you have to move to avoid mechanics ... except for lvl 50 dungeons .

Your problem is that you're the tank. Let's take WP for example. First boss fires attacks at the DPS/heals with red cones and circles. Second boss spawns ADDs that need to be killed, each one having a different effect if not killed in time. Then it will pick a random target and chase after them. Also uses Fire which you should avoid. 3rd Boss, Tonberry King, has ADDs running for your throat and increases his attack for each Tonberry killed. If you don't overgear that boss and you kill all the Tonberries you are likely to die.

AK, first boss is a lot harder not knowing the fight. ADDs spawn and do a giant frontal cone thing and the other one uses an unavoidable Obliterate. Then a giant one spawns and covers the whole room in AOE, only avoidable by standing outside of the circle or through LOS. Void Thunder 3 also has to be avoided the whole time, or silenced. Second boss, Demon Wall, road blocker of many and a true DPS check. Everyone has to avoid the mechanics of this fight and when the bees spawn there are several ways to deal with them. Both bees do an attack that inflicts para which means you either take it or have to stun both (if PLD) meanwhile still not getting hit off the edge by Repel and not bringing the bees too close to the DPS. The third and final boss does two attacks in a row (Rotten Breath and... I forget the other one) that do massive damage if you are averagely geared for AK. He also throws in The Look which does a good amount of damage as well. Meanwhile DPS have to run around, killing ADDs by themselves, moving bombs away from the party, avoiding Imminent Catastrophe, etc.

Basically, don't forget that this isn't a 1v1 fight. And that you likely outgear the dungeon when you find it EZ PZ.

[Grailer]

Your problem is that you're the tank.

Well now I know the problem I can fix that , time to not be tank and do another class .

[Devaking55]

its like people said, the dungeons are difficult but having people geared for them makes it trivial, but i know wp can be a pain if the tank isnt fully geared ._. same with ak, or if someone is bad and doesnt know how to play at lvl50........ lol