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    Grailer's Avatar
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Lower Level Dungeons Harder than WP / AK

    They really need to increase the difficulty of WP and AK , right now it is so boring running these dungeons mainly due to the zero lack of skill needed to do them .

    I recall that a lot of lower lvl dungeons being ALOT harder than these end game dungeons .

    Why would they make game get easier instead of harder ? Coil being the only other challenge but that is locked out most of the time so useless.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Dungeon difficulty is focused on the assumption of all players never doing it before and are all geared somewhat closely on-level with with the mob levels they will encounter. Just because people can grossly overgear a dungeon and memorize the perfect paths/pulls to do it in less than 15 minutes doesn't mean the dungeon is easy. 4-man dungeons aren't catered to the hardcore minority, they are designed for everyone (including casuals). Hard Mode dungeons will solve your problem if you're looking for more "hardcore" focused content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Dungeon difficulty is focused on the assumption of all players never doing it before and are all geared somewhat closely on-level with with the mob levels they will encounter. Just because people can grossly overgear a dungeon and memorize the perfect paths/pulls to do it in less than 15 minutes doesn't mean the dungeon is easy. 4-man dungeons aren't catered to the hardcore minority, they are designed for everyone (including casuals). Hard Mode dungeons will solve your problem if you're looking for more "hardcore" focused content.
    So what you are saying is that AK and WP are actually harder than ST , AV and DD ?
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    Arcana Holo
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    Because ppl can't run low level dungeon with iLevel gears 20-40 higher than the dungeon.
    Also no one run low level dungeon 50+ times so they know the dungeon like the back of their hand.
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcaloid View Post
    Because ppl can't run low level dungeon with iLevel gears 20-40 higher than the dungeon.
    Also no one run low level dungeon 50+ times so they know the dungeon like the back of their hand.
    I've levelled 2 tanks to 50 in dungeons only so I am the one that has run low level dungeon 50+ times. I pretty much know what mob is coming around what corner , when how, what they are wearing and how much they weigh lol

    With this far superior knowledge of dungeons and boss mechanics that as you said , no one but me has , I can tell you that for example the last boss in AK is a joke compared to the last boss in AV or ST .

    Wiping in WP on first boss almost never happens even with the worst group you can imagine . But in those low level dungeons you could say some of the first bosses are hard as hell .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    I've levelled 2 tanks to 50 in dungeons only so I am the one that has run low level dungeon 50+ times.
    But when ppl do AK or WP, quite possible every one has ran the dungeon for 50+ times.

    Also gear level make a huge difference. In AV your gear possibly sync down to like 55, 6 more than dungeon level. Where in AK many ppl are in Full DL, which is 20 more than dungeon level, not to mention Myth/Coil/+1 gears are 40 levels higher.

    When I do AV for the first time, 2 of the party member has ran that for few times so they know it well, we clear the dungeon in 1 try.
    When I did AK few days ago, one of the party member only got iLevel 55 weapon, and don't know the fight very well so he has been hit by Deamon Wall's ground spell multiple times, we wiped 2 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcaloid View Post
    Also gear level make a huge difference. In AV your gear possibly sync down to like 55, 6 more than dungeon level. Where in AK many ppl are in Full DL, which is 20 more than dungeon level, not to mention Myth/Coil/+1 gears are 40 levels higher.

    When I do AV for the first time, 2 of the party member has ran that for few times so they know it well, we clear the dungeon in 1 try.
    When I did AK few days ago, one of the party member only got iLevel 55 weapon, and don't know the fight very well so he has been hit by Deamon Wall's ground spell multiple times, we wiped 2 times.
    hmm ok so I guess the dungeon system end game is flawed a bit . It should sync players down to level of the dungeon ( like iLvl 60 maybe ) so that it isn't a snooze fest . People would probably not like that tho because they want to speed run them .

    However some people actually like to stay awake when gaming lol .
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    Euri Bisaine
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    hmm ok so I guess the dungeon system end game is flawed a bit . It should sync players down to level of the dungeon ( like iLvl 60 maybe ) so that it isn't a snooze fest . People would probably not like that tho because they want to speed run them .

    However some people actually like to stay awake when gaming lol .
    Find some of those people and wear nothing but AK gear to run AK with, problem solved.
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    Cyrus Skywalker
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltaneenXIV View Post
    Find some of those people and wear nothing but AK gear to run AK with, problem solved.
    or do it in Bathing suits
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    If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die... I must simply laugh

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    Seiren Yakumo
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    Those dungeons are intended to gear fresh 50s. So yeah, once you get the stuff within and beyond of course they become easy.
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