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    Player
    Amas's Avatar
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    Amas Naya
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fire_Lotus View Post
    I would just like pld's useless skills to be reworked. Like seriously, wtf do I even use awareness, tempered will, and shield swipe for?

    EDIT: cuz i like stacking buffs thats why.
    Awareness - Bad, but not really much worse than Foresight. Foresight's pretty bad. Could use a rethink.

    Tempered Will - Current content has a real dearth of movement-impairing effects on tanks, but the skill itself could be very valuable in future content.

    Shield Swipe - Higher DPGCD than Halone combo, TP-positive, doesn't interrupt combos. Why aren't you using it if threat isn't on a knife's edge?

    Let's bitch about cross-class skills before we bitch about class skills. PLD's toolbox is remarkably well-rounded, it's just the cross-class cupboard that's painfully bare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trematode View Post
    I wonder if the PLD's on the jap forum cry as much as PLD's in the English.
    That's a physical impossibility. Funny story, there are as many WARs crying as PLDs, and many PLDs who are excited by these changes (and not just those of us with WAR at 50).
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    Wizhard Felfury
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amas View Post
    Awareness - Bad, but not really much worse than Foresight. Foresight's pretty bad. Could use a rethink.
    It makes it so the heals on us also cant crit.
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    Fire_Lotus's Avatar
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    Varus Rosenthal
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amas View Post
    Awareness - Bad, but not really much worse than Foresight. Foresight's pretty bad. Could use a rethink.

    Tempered Will - Current content has a real dearth of movement-impairing effects on tanks, but the skill itself could be very valuable in future content.

    Shield Swipe - Higher DPGCD than Halone combo, TP-positive, doesn't interrupt combos. Why aren't you using it if threat isn't on a knife's edge?

    Let's bitch about cross-class skills before we bitch about class skills. PLD's toolbox is remarkably well-rounded, it's just the cross-class cupboard that's painfully bare.
    The cross-class problem stems from two points: everything but Raise and Stoneskin from Conj sucks to cross-class and cross-classing too many of WAR's CDs would, by extension, buff PLD. If I could take the new/old Vengeance and/or Thrill of Battle over Mercy Stroke/Skull Sunder/Fracture I totally would, etc. etc.

    Other than changing the actual crossed classes, I don't think there's much you can do to solve this problem without buffing PLDs way too hard.

    EDIT: You know, I bet if you popped Awareness while your WHM's Shroud of Saints was down, you could keep them from ripping threat via Cure crits. I GET IT NOW SE!
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    Last edited by Fire_Lotus; 11-21-2013 at 11:59 PM.