Does SE not realise their game has no content?

[Skullcrusher]

It's content you haven't done, because each job/class plays differently. There are also stories for each class that you have not seen yet, not to mention crafting and gathering. So, just because you don't want to do it, doesn't mean it's non-existent.

No there isn't any new content with another class.
Let's use wow As an example.1 character to max lvl and clearing recent raid = beating the game ( sort off)

Now u start another character( ie class in ff) it's the same thing. Except in wow , you can take a different leveling route to your first character and mid it up( different content).

Ff only has 1 main linear way to level, grind the same fates in the same locAtion with the same people over and over , there's no variety at all. Sure , throw in a dungeon and hunting log, but it's all just the same .

[Welsper59]

Nobody measures the worth of a game by the amount of worthless content in it. The main story is basically your usual MMORPG fare that's comparable to fanfiction, except that'd be rude to good fanfiction authors to compare this (and most MMORPG) to it. Therefore the ability to waste a few hundred hours going through the main story, possibly multiple times, is not considered worthwhile. Note that if a single player RPG had a story as bad as FF14 most people would never buy it in the first place.

Just because you wasted a lot of time playing a bad game, doesn't mean the game was actually worth it. It's true in MMORPG most players have expectation to have to waste some time to get to the good parts, but that's really just a fallacy. It's not like having the main story of FF14 being so bad somehow improves the other aspects of the game.

Well you can brood on that all you want, it doesn't change the fact people enjoy what you don't. So maybe the rest of us ignorant masses, who enjoy "bad" things, will just continue having a good time. We'll have to leave it to you heroes of our time to make sure you stand up for us by dwelling upon your own misery. Continue paying for games you don't enjoy and continue paying for monthly subscriptions for them, maybe one day you will save us all...

[Thunderz]

all 50's and got all the relics

coil and mining is all I got left to do

[Astarica]

I don't get all the guys who basically say, "I enjoy paying for a bad game". Yes it's not my business to decide what your tastes are but you're responsible for the fact that MMORPG (and most games in general) continue to be super profitable while turning out seriously subpar products. Sure companies have a right to make as much money as they want, but that doesn't mean you should continue to support getting ripped off. FF14 is worth some money for being the least worst MMORPG currently available and I respect that, but in the long run it'd take more than 'well every other game out there is worse' for me to keep playing it.

[Welsper59]

I don't get all the guys who basically say, "I enjoy paying for a bad game". Yes it's not my business to decide what your tastes are but you're responsible for the fact that MMORPG (and most games in general) continue to be super profitable while turning out seriously subpar products. Sure companies have a right to make as much money as they want, but that doesn't mean you should continue to support getting ripped off. FF14 is worth some money for being the least worst MMORPG currently available and I respect that, but in the long run it'd take more than 'well every other game out there is worse' for me to keep playing it.

Good and bad is subjective. Name a good MMORPG that you actually believe is worth spending money on today. Name a movie too. A book perhaps. No matter what it is, someone will say (with total honesty) you're wrong, though you won't believe. You can say you like GTA, I can honestly say I don't. You can say CoD and BF games are the best of the FPS genre, I don't care for them. In fact, I have my own outlook towards those games, particularly popular FPS games, that they're just subpar or rehashed material. The only difference between you and I is that I don't throw obviously insulting statements when I'm being passive aggressive.

[Krystalynn]

What? Lol, the time it takes to cap your class/job and get the best gear in the game alone will take longer to do than any numbered final fantasy. Most of the modern final fantasy games are extremely linear and lack content in comparison to the older ones (imo) and even they don't have close to the content of this game. Not to mention, imo, playing with other people > Single player anytime.

Time taking to get to something isn't 'content'. This would be like having to run Stage 2-3 in Mario at least 50 times to get the key to the last level. It is literally farm status repeating the same content over and over to be able to access new content. When you sit back and look at game experiences as a whole and compare it to something like FFXV, you tell me if the money spent here is reflected like it is in that work when it comes to quality and presentation, over experience, vistas and locales, game features, combat depth. Really?

Next time you see a fate zerg an nm encounter in thirty seconds , stop and say "This is Final Fantasy XIV" and let it sink in.

[Dhaenon]

Sooooo... no content you say? After a quick character search of your character this is brought to my attetion:


You are nowhere NEAR done with this game. You leveled 1 Job class to 50. Didn't you hear? Each class has it's own back story, which is a storyline all on its own! Perhaps if the above picture showed you at all 50's then yes, i'd say you are done, go take a break, go read a book, and wait until 2.1 and 2.2 but you are far from done! Sure you have a WHM all decked out. That's one character. That's one job storyline you have completed. No content...jeez kids these days.

So go play all the other jobs and FATE grind to 50, DUH! We call that Content!

[Starlord]

So go play all the other jobs and FATE grind to 50, DUH! We call that Content!

In a manner of speaking, it is content. It's just something some people don't consider content. Content has a variety of enjoyment.

1) Raids
2) Leveling
3) FATEs
4) Crafting
5) Dungeons
6) Hunting Logs
7) GC Seal Farming
8) Myth/Philo Farming
9) Primals ( Normal/Hard and soon Extreme)
10) Coil
11) Crystal Tower
12) Beastman Dalies
13) Main Storyline
14) Upping Your GC Rank

etc etc. They are all content. To me personally, if something is occupying time in this game for you, then it's content. Without Content, you would have nothing to do ( which means you couldn't waste time on this game doing anything except chatting).

[Astarica]

I realize literally every MMORPG has its fanboys saying "This game has more stuff than any other game at launch". First, that statement can't even be true unless the amount of available content at launch in a MMORPG is ever increasing, and second, that doesn't even matter because your game is competing against MMORPG of today, not ten years ago. It'd be generous to call this game average in terms of content quantity and quality, but even while being generous, paying $15/month for 'average' in the hyper-competitive MMORPG market is grossly overpaying. For $15 a month you can get the dominant leader in content in absolute numbers, WoW, and you can make a good argument that it could be up there even qualitatively. Now content, believe it or not, isn't actually everything or nobody would ever quit WoW just to play something with 1/10th the total content compared to it. Hope and innovation is well worth spending money for, but hope can only keep you going for so long, which is why it's totally reasonable for fans to demand hope and innovation turns into something more concrete. And yes, 2.1 is supposed to deliver that hope, which is probably the only reason why this game haven't had the usual crash in population. Despite this game being thoroughly average overall, it does have a lot of hope which is something I don't see in other MMORPGs. Note that a game like WoW also has no hope. Unless you've been living in a cave, you know WoW is never going to change significantly from its formula, so you'd never play WoW on hope. But FF14 is different enough to sell on hope, as long as it delivers that hope in a timely manner.

[Alhanelem]

What if people have no interests in leveling other classes or crafts?

Not being interested is one thing, but pretending content doesn't exist because you're not interested in it doesn't mean there's "no content." "less content than an SP RPG" is also bull honkey. Let's time warp back to the Japanese launch of FFXI. (go ahead, reasearch it) It had less content than this game has now.

First, that statement can't even be true unless the amount of available content at launch in a MMORPG is ever increasing,

What is this I don't even? No, it can be true without your conditions. Different games have different amounts of content (though it's not a really easy thing to quantify). It hasn't been "ever increasing" throughout MMO history.

It'd be generous to call this game average in terms of content quantity and quality,

No. It is easily above average in both for a game in its launch version. Also, most people here aren't paying $15/m (at least, I hope they're not) when there are two ways to pay considerably less (3 if you count legacy). I've hardly seen more well crafted dungeons and zones in an MMO- FFXIV's environments are far more sophisticated than WoW's and most other MMOs even.