Does SE not realise their game has no content?

[Babydoll]

XI also took much longer to level up, and by the time you had all the classes you needed leveled, more content had been added. Also XI was released state-side at the same time as the first full expansion. We haven't had an expansion yet, 2.1 isn't an expansion either.

Yes I know this...but the post I quoted said that: "People will always be saying this, no matter how much they put in. "There's nothing to do, I'm so bored!"

Meaning..when there IS an expansion and we have some actual solid content (Hopefully) I won't be saying this anymore ^^ But as for now...yes I am bored haha but I am here to stay!

[Deanmalinco]

I think it is pretty easy to understand to be honest. This game so far, is aimed around casual players at best (ps3 compatibility). Casual meaning the difficulty of content available. Sure, there are plenty of things to do like max out all of the jobs. Crafting, go around reading the lore and enjoying all the other things in the game. But the typical "mmo" tiered raiding/gear progression is lack luster for people who want to focus on one main character (myself). I have not even cleared turn 5 yet so I cannot really complain (waiting on RL friends to get geared still), but I do see where the others who have cleared it are coming from.

This game has a deep cult type following with a majority of the player base being "casual". I am not trying to disrespect anyone or act like an elitist but...the game is tailored for your play style. Unfortunately for players like myself, I do not give a shit about about the lore or the story. I came here because i think this MMO has good raiding potential compared to the other games released in recent years. As of this moment, that potential is looking grim for at least until April 2014.

At the end of the day, SE is a business that needs to make money. How do they make money? they release patches that help the masses of casual players who read all of the text in each quest and enjoy running around with a pumpkin head costume. If that makes 80% of the their subscription paying player base renew each month, can you blame them? If you are into end game raiding and gear progression then I think you should gracefully just bow out of this conversation. Sure, the potential to be a great raiding game is there, but obviously is not currently a top priority.

[Molly_Millions]

Forum posters coming up with "you have not leveled every class to 50" are making assumption that "the achiever" playstyle is the only playstyle in games.

Not really. Saying "there is no content" is to present this as a fact; whereas saying "there is no content that I like" is to present an opinion. An argument can be made for the latter, but to state the former as fact is a fallacy.

Ok, so people want more of a certain type of content, that's totally ok. But realize how much time that type of content takes to deliver.

[Blazer]

have you even considered bringing any of those low-leveled DOW/DOM into dungeons? you don't have to fate grind everything to 50 because it is the "quickest" way.

so much obligation to fast-fast track crap. at least leveling lower classes the non-fate way is a good change of pace from the mindless tome grind.

I choose not to level them. With the exception of archer, I have every class where I want it to be. It has nothing to do with fate grinding and dungeons. I hit 50 on GLD through quests and dungeons before people even knew that FATEs were what they are. I don't understand what your reply to my post has to do at all with the topic.

[Rubieus]

Seriously, I don't really understand how an MMO can release with less content then most single player RPGs.

Not sure about you but Skyrim was considered one of the biggest single player rpgs ever made. I spend 200+ hours on it. That being said, I spent more hours playing FFVII and FFVIII separately. That being said. I bought XIV when it was still in alpha. CE Edition and all. I went through the sentinel rng exp phase and I have ended up here in ARR. To say it has less content than most single player rpgs. Makes me think you are still stuck at level 15 and are only doing the level 15 dungeons. But seeing as you have a level 50 conj. I can only ascertain that either A: you bought your account. or B: someone did all the fun stuff on your account and you are left with all the boring bits like farming AK and WP.

[Roaminggnome]

Or C Fates

Not sure about you but Skyrim was considered one of the biggest single player rpgs ever made. I spend 200+ hours on it. That being said, I spent more hours playing FFVII and FFVIII separately. That being said. I bought XIV when it was still in alpha. CE Edition and all. I went through the sentinel rng exp phase and I have ended up here in ARR. To say it has less content than most single player rpgs. Makes me think you are still stuck at level 15 and are only doing the level 15 dungeons. But seeing as you have a level 50 conj. I can only ascertain that either A: you bought your account. or B: someone did all the fun stuff on your account and you are left with all the boring bits like farming AK and WP.

[Krystalynn]

Let's be honest here, there is way less content here than any numbered Final Fantasy out there.

You think Lightning Returns is getting this treatment? Final Fantasy XV? lol, hah... and those don't even have subscription fees. Better graphics, better story (which I'm sure will be wholly voice acted and provide numerous cinematics) But no, of course, XIV gets a pass because it's an mmo.

This genre needs to reinvent itself.

[Reslin]

Still more content than nearly any mmo on release. Not many other pve focused mmos have released with this much starting content. I hear "No content" on every mmo that has launched. I'm starting to think you people who claim "No content" need to start waiting a year or two before getting into an mmo.

Let's be honest here, there is way less content here than any numbered Final Fantasy out there.

You think Lightning Returns is getting this treatment? Final Fantasy XV? lol, hah... and those don't even have subscription fees. Better graphics, better story (which I'm sure will be wholly voice acted and provide numerous cinematics) But no, of course, XIV gets a pass because it's an mmo.

This genre needs to reinvent itself.

What? Lol, the time it takes to cap your class/job and get the best gear in the game alone will take longer to do than any numbered final fantasy. Most of the modern final fantasy games are extremely linear and lack content in comparison to the older ones (imo) and even they don't have close to the content of this game. Not to mention this game will get more and more content for years to come including expansions giving it a much longer life. Not to mention, imo, playing with other people > Single player anytime.

[Skullcrusher]

When I sAw the way to level was thru fates ( and did it that way for a lot of levels) , I knew this game wasn't going to hold me for long.

[Astarica]

Nobody measures the worth of a game by the amount of worthless content in it. The main story is basically your usual MMORPG fare that's comparable to fanfiction, except that'd be rude to good fanfiction authors to compare this (and most MMORPG) to it. Therefore the ability to waste a few hundred hours going through the main story, possibly multiple times, is not considered worthwhile. Note that if a single player RPG had a story as bad as FF14 most people would never buy it in the first place.

Just because you wasted a lot of time playing a bad game, doesn't mean the game was actually worth it. It's true in MMORPG most players have expectation to have to waste some time to get to the good parts, but that's really just a fallacy. It's not like having the main story of FF14 being so bad somehow improves the other aspects of the game.