I'm not sure I buy that argument that you shouldn't DPS because bad players exist. That's just a total race to the bottom, bad players will always exist. Sometimes you won't be able to maximize your class because you are held back so badly by the rest of your group. Furthermore, if it is *that* bad you probably will end up wiping anyway. As an example, I'm pretty close to full ilevel 90 - I'll be missing 4 pieces by next week.

I went to WP, and I couldn't even keep the tank up against the first large initial pull even blowing all 3 Lustrates, swiftcasting Adlo, ect. Thus, the run wasn't passable the way we targeted anyway.

However, in my experience, things like this is the exception not the rule.