Sell shards from vendors

[Seezur_Undies]

ok so the sarcasm wasnt noted...No i do not want to "fuck up the market" as you politely stated, but if one thing is fixed they will find something else to bitch about. SE said they are working on RMT botter, it doesnt happen over night, and its not like they can just press a button, this is a situation that requires something alot of gamers lack...Patience... I am guilty that i want things yesterday, and then tomorrow i will want something else two days ago, but this game is only 2 months old, RMT is a big issue, but there are other issues they are also dealing with, so we just have to be patient and hope like hell SE follows through with what they say they are going to do

[yukikaze_yanagi]

ok so the sarcasm wasnt noted...No i do not want to "fuck up the market" as you politely stated, but if one thing is fixed they will find something else to bitch about. SE said they are working on RMT botter, it doesnt happen over night, and its not like they can just press a button, this is a situation that requires something alot of gamers lack...Patience... I am guilty that i want things yesterday, and then tomorrow i will want something else two days ago, but this game is only 2 months old, RMT is a big issue, but there are other issues they are also dealing with, so we just have to be patient and hope like hell SE follows through with what they say they are going to do

Just to point out, my reply wasn't directly aimed to you, but mostly to OP, and generally to everyone who think this would solve something.

[jebali]

Make shards untradable sell from crafting vendors. problem solved

agree

Great move, let's kill shards and fuck up the market.
Because you know, selling shards by npc it's a pointless move: RMT will simply jump to something else to make proficts. What's your plan then, selling every item in the game by npc ?

what market are you on? On mine the market has nothing but names selling 3k per stack with max sales slots used and the first 200 post are all rmt names what human can farm 20 stacks of 3k in one day without botting or cheating please let me know that trick
Every other game that req something special for crafting is only sold at vendors, the whole shard system for crafting is stupid overall it just causes less crafting and motivates crafters to buy gil so they can level it.
Once again my point is about crafting shard farming kills the motivation to craft, getting 100 shard a hour is not worth the time in this game and buying them only pays the rmt's

[Ksenia]

I'm not sure vendoring shards is the best answer but shards are a broken element of crafting. They weren't meant to be ATK Mined one at a time. As grindy as 1.00 was, even the 1.00 design saw that.

[Anayrie]

the whole shard system for crafting is stupid overall it just causes less crafting and motivates crafters to buy gil so they can level it.

Really? Maybe it has stopped me for crafting for one day, but motivating crafters to buy gil.. I guess some derps buy it, but really I don't see how any of these RMTs stay in business. It's going to take a lot more than shards before I give thieves my money.

There is a better solution than this though. Like maybe locking any account that has (x) amount of black lists, including shutting down the retainers of those accounts. But just cutting one chain of their supply and legit players too wont solve it. Levemate quests could reward more crystals too, and relevant ones as a weaver I don't need anymore freaking wind shards!!

[yukikaze_yanagi]

what market are you on?On mine the market has nothing but names selling 3k per stack with max sales slots used and the first 200 post are all rmt names what human can farm 20 stacks of 3k in one day without botting or cheating please let me know that trick
Every other game that req something special for crafting is only sold at vendors, the whole shard system for crafting is stupid overall it just causes less crafting and motivates crafters to buy gil so they can level it.

Is that supposed to be an argument? There's plenty of recipes in the game who use npc items, even that "something special" mats you mention, like potash, coke etc, and they are obtainable only by npc.
By the way you talk about, seems like shards are the only item requested for a craft, while in reality are just a material common to every craft. But let's say they remove shards altogether: do you think rmt would be affected?
Don't you think they'll just laugh and bot something else, like button mushrooms for the common food buttons in a blanket? Silver sharks for mega-potion of str? Sandworm tooths for mega-potion of int?
Understand this: rmt are not flooding shards because it's less work. They bot, so they don't care about how much work of time they need to sell things. They sell shards only because they are the more convenient item to sell, not because they lack alternatives.

[viion]

This will solve nothing....

If you make shards redundant they move onto another item.
Make that redundant, they move onto another item.

Did you forget that botting contains zero effort? They don't care where they get their gil, so long as they can bot it.

[jebali]

Is that supposed to be an argument? .

could ya maybe go back and read my post before going all flametastic
THIS IS ABOUT CRAFTING shards are a waste they are not needed, no other game has anything like this to craft you just need the mats for the item. you are on a legacy server maybe things are diff on those but on mine the ONLY people selling shards are rmt. they have the market so flooded only other rmts drive the price down. why do I need to have a host of diff shards to make a gear it is a bad system overall. selling the shards from the crafter vendors would make crafting better. I do not care what rmts move to THIS IS ABOUT CRAFTING.

[Vampt]

The OP is def right about shards being free range for RMT. If i had my way id jsut say eliminate them completely. Then gil sellers would just have to rely on hacking for gil. or i guess fleece botting and stuff but thats insignificant compared to botting shards. I doubt rmt people are crafting 2 stars or materia farming and other than that there really is not much more ways to make gil.

[ZohnoReecho]

could ya maybe go back and read my post before going all flametastic
THIS IS ABOUT CRAFTING shards are a waste they are not needed, no other game has anything like this to craft you just need the mats for the item. you are on a legacy server maybe things are diff on those but on mine the ONLY people selling shards are rmt. they have the market so flooded only other rmts drive the price down. why do I need to have a host of diff shards to make a gear it is a bad system overall. selling the shards from the crafter vendors would make crafting better. I do not care what rmts move to THIS IS ABOUT CRAFTING.

RMT are an issue.
But saying shards are not needed. The game requires it. Adapt or change to a game where there is a different crafting system that you like I guess.