Endgame healer gear comparison

[Delvish]

Added on hidden boxes for stat caps for materia melding. It is a difficult thing to do on ones own to test the stat caps for each item single-handedly, so if you have insight on where the stat caps are I appreciate the contribution.

[Sleigh]

It was recommended to me by an IMO very strong WHM to go this order for myth:

Relic+1 > pants > boots > gloves > ring > body (if not gotten from BC yet) > whatever you want at this point, based on BC drops

How does this sound?

[dragonflyseksparade]

Added on hidden boxes for stat caps for materia melding. It is a difficult thing to do on ones own to test the stat caps for each item single-handedly, so if you have insight on where the stat caps are I appreciate the contribution.

rose gold circlet caps: +16spellspeed, +7 piety

Also, this shows most of the other stat caps for i70 crafted:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4468/y0to.png

[dragonflyseksparade]

It was recommended to me by an IMO very strong WHM to go this order for myth:

Relic+1 > pants > boots > gloves > ring > body (if not gotten from BC yet) > whatever you want at this point, based on BC drops

How does this sound?

That order would work fine, but this is all that really matters:
Relic+1 > pants > whatever you want at this point, based on BC drops

[FinagleABagel]

That order would work fine, but this is all that really matters:
Relic+1 > pants > whatever you want at this point, based on BC drops

I'd go so far to say it doesn't matter at all. You can pass turn 4 with relic+DL. Anything else is just buffer, which while helpful - is still buffer and not necessary.

Could you pass turn 4 with less, yes but I don't think it's viable to have the entire party at such a low gear level.

[dragonflyseksparade]

I'd go so far to say it doesn't matter at all. You can pass turn 4 with relic+DL. Anything else is just buffer, which while helpful - is still buffer and not necessary.

Could you pass turn 4 with less, yes but I don't think it's viable to have the entire party at such a low gear level.

The discussion isn't about what is needed to complete endgame content, but rather what the optimum upgrade order is, given where gear drops come from. The order you upgrade does matter when you consider that pants and weapon only drop from T5 which is going to take anyone a good amount of time/practice to win. You'd be wasting tomes if your first purchased item was something that dropped in T1 or T2.

[FinagleABagel]

The discussion isn't about what is needed to complete endgame content, but rather what the optimum upgrade order is, given where gear drops come from. The order you upgrade does matter when you consider that pants and weapon only drop from T5 which is going to take anyone a good amount of time/practice to win. You'd be wasting tomes if your first purchased item was something that dropped in T1 or T2.

It's a silly discussion, min/maxing in this game basically doesn't matter. Get the ilevel gear and clear content.

Food buffs and potions do more than some "optimal" gear puchasing. However, I agree pants should be early due to the difficulty in obtaining them. Despite that, the rest of the rotation completely depends on the drop RNG. Sorry to say, but that is going to jack up anyone's BIS and purchasing rotations.

I would suggest upgrading things as soon as you can not simply waiting for a drop.

[dragonflyseksparade]

It's a silly discussion, min/maxing in this game basically doesn't matter. Get the ilevel gear and clear content.

Food buffs and potions do more than some "optimal" gear puchasing. However, I agree pants should be early due to the difficulty in obtaining them. Despite that, the rest of the rotation completely depends on the drop RNG. Sorry to say, but that is going to jack up anyone's BIS and purchasing rotations.

I would suggest upgrading things as soon as you can not simply waiting for a drop.

I'm sorry that you think a discussion about how to not waste mythology tomes is silly. Nobody is suggesting to stockpile myth tomes and wait for a specific drop. The only discussion is about what items you are most likely to get via drops due to the number of times that you clear T1/T2 while you are proggressing in T4/T5. I'm not sure why you are confused by this.

[dragonflyseksparade]

In response to my comment about getting relic+1 and then pants:

I'd go so far to say it doesn't matter at all.

Suddenly...

However, I agree pants should be early due to the difficulty in obtaining them.

You seem very confused. In one post you disagree and in the next you agree.

[FinagleABagel]

No....I haven't changed what I'm saying at all.

You can not get Relic+1, and buy totally random ilevel 90 gear and be just fine through Turn 4. If you think you'll clear coil faster, you will LESSEN chance of doubling up drops by getting the pants. Not because you need them, but because of RNG.

The thing none of this takes into account is that your chance of getting what you want when you want it, is really small. As such, trying to prioritize every little thing is just a crapshoot. Don't delay buying myth gear because you are waiting for some Allagan item. Buy it, improve yourself now, don't wait for something simply because someone told you it's best to follow some static order. The only one you can guarantee is the pant/weap because its Turn 5. *But you don't have to do that.*