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    Endgame Healer Gear Comparison

    So I've been talking with this buddy in my office about how to start gearing for endgame, at least to an adequate level until a good mix of Relic/Darklight/Allagan gear becomes feasible. Essentially the bare minimums needed to get into Titan and Coil groups. So then I started thinking, what is a good set? It started getting all jumbled in my head, clicking around from screen to screen, re-hovering over different items to figure out their stats, trying to commit it to memory 6-7 times as I compare everything

    So I made it simple and organized it ALL out.

    Below are charts separating each slot of gear and listing each bonus associated with the gear. We don't have an easy way of comparing each and every piece above lvl50, so this really should help everyone as they are getting on their feet. While we are at it though, what do you think everyone should be focusing on as priority?

    Disclaimer: I haven't included relic+1 weapons as these are obviously the best and "easiest" (compared to their Allagan counterpart) upgrades for any healer, and it really just comes down to when you should get it, instead of if.

    Synthed items are denoted by a *, and have two numbers under a category, denoting NQ-HQ. These synergy items are further elaborated in the hidden box with their Materia caps (work in progress)

    Head
    HTML Code:
    Head	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	18	18	11	15	0	0	
    Argute	90	18	18	11	15	0	0	
    Cleric	90	18	18	16	0	0	15	
    DL		Cannot equip headgear						
    Strat	60	10	10	9	0	0	11	
    Warlock	55	8	9	0	7	14	0	INT 9
    AF	50	7	8	5	9	0	0	
    Vanya*	70	10-12	11-12	8-11		9-11		Materia 2
    RG C*	70	10-12	11-12		9-11	9		INT 11-12, Materia 2
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Vanya*	70	0	0	0	+11	+5	+16	Materia 2
    RG C*	70	__	__	+7	__	+7	+16	Materia 2



    Body
    HTML Code:
    Body	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	29	29	26	17	0	0	
    Argute	90	29	29	26	0	24	0	
    Cleric	90	29	29	26	0	0	24	
    DL	70	32	33	19	29	0	0	
    Strat	60	16	16	15	0	0	17	
    Warlock	55	14	14	0	11	0	0	INT 14, ACC 23
    AF	55	14	14	13	0	16	0	
    Vanya*	70	16-20	18-20		15-18		15-19	Materia 2
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Vanya*	70	0	0	__	0	+27	+8	Materia 2



    Hands
    HTML Code:
    Hands	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	18	18	16	0	15	0	
    Argute	90	18	18	16	0	0	15	
    Cleric	90	18	18	16	0	0	15	
    DL	70	12	12	11	8	0	0	
    Strat	60	10	10	9	0	0	11	
    Warlock	55	8	9	0	7	0	0	INT 9, ACC 14
    AF	50	7	8	7	0	0	10	
    Vanya*	70	10-12	11-12		9-11		9-11	Materia 2
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Vanya*	70	0	0	0	0	+16	+5	Materia 2



    Legs
    HTML Code:
    Legs	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	29	29	26	0	24	0	
    Argute	90	29	29	26	0	24	0	
    Cleric	90	29	29	26	17	0	0	
    DL	70	20	20	12	0	27	0	
    Strat	60	16	16	15	0	0	17	
    Warlock	55	14	14	0	11	0	0	INT 14, ACC 23
    AF	50	12	12	12	0	15	0	
    Vanya*	70	16-20	18-20		15-18		15-19	Materia 2
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Vanya*	70	0	0	__	0	__	+8	Materia 2



    Feet
    HTML Code:
    Feet	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	18	18	11	0	0	21	
    Argute	90	18	18	16	0	0	15	
    Cleric	90	18	18	11	15	0	0	
    DL	70	12	12	11	8	0	0	
    Strat	60	10	10	9	0	0	11	
    Warlock	55	8	9	0	7	0	0	INT 9, ACC 14
    AF	50	7	8	7	0	0	10	
    Spruce*	70	10-12	11-12	6-7		13-16		Materia 2
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Spruce*	70	0	0	+4	+11	0	+16	Materia 2



    Necklace
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    Neck	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	0	13	8	11	0	0	
    Relic	90	0	13	12	0	11	0	
    DL	70	0	9	8	0	0	9	
    Strat	60	0	8	0	8	0	8	
    Astral*	70		8-9				7-9	INT 8-9, ACC 10-12, Materia 1
    RG*	70	8-12			5-6			Parry 10-12, Materia1
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Astral*	70	+9	0	__	+8	+12	+3	Materia 1
    RG*	70	__	+7	__	__	__	__	Materia 1



    Earring
    HTML Code:
    Ear	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	0	13	12	8	0	0	
    Relic	90	0	13	8	0	16	0	
    DL	70	0	9	8	0	0	9	
    Strat	60	0	8	5	0	0	11	
    RG ER*	70		8-9			7-9	10-12	INT 8-9, Materia 1
    RG EC*	70	8-10				7-9		Parry 10-12, Materia 1
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    RG ER*	70	+9	0	__	+8	+3	0	Materia 1
    RG EC*	70	+9	__	__	+2	__	__	Materia 1


    Bracers
    HTML Code:
    Wrist	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	0	13	8	0	0	16	
    Relic	90	0	13	12	0	11	0	
    DL	70	0	9	8	0	0	9	
    Astral*	70		8-9			10-12	7-9	INT 8-9, Materia 1
    RG*	70	8-10				10-12		Parry7-9, Materia 1
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Astral*	70	+9	0	__	+8	0	+3	Materia 1
    RG*	70	__	+7	__	__	__	__	Materia 1



    Rings
    Don't forget to pick 2

    HTML Code:
    Ring	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	0	13	12	8	0	0	
    Relic	90	0	13	8	0	16	0	
    DL	70	0	9	8	0	0	9	
    Strat	60	0	8	5	0	0	11	
    Astral*	70		8-9		7-8			INT 8-9, ACC 7-9, Materia 1
    RG*	70	8-10						Parry 7-9, ACC 10-12, Materia 1
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Astral*	70	+9	0	__	0	+12	+12	Materia 1
    RG*	70	__	__	__	__	__	__	Materia 1



    Belt
    [HB]
    HTML Code:
    Belt	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Allagan	90	14	13	12	0	0	11	
    Relic	90	14	13	8	0	16	0	
    DL	70	9	9	8	6	0	0	
    Strat	60	7	8	7	0	0	8	
    Warlock	55	6	7	0	5	0	11	
    Vanya*	70	7-9	8-9	4-6			10-12	INT 7, Materia 1
    HTML Code:
    Materia	iLV	VIT	MND	PIE	DET	CRIT	SSp	Misc
    Vanya*	70	0	0	+2	+8	+12	0	Materia 1
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    Last edited by Delvish; 12-04-2013 at 07:10 AM. Reason: Materia caps

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    Hi back to you sir.
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    Edit: All good now! Needed to slip it all into HTML.
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    Added in the Allagan pieces and I'm glad I did. A lot of these are actually piece for piece recreations, and a lot of them are actually downgrades as far as SCH is concerned. I think in a few cases, Allagan will be the first piece to get until you can afford enough Mythology tokens to get the Heros or Argute set. Allagan is typically well tailored to WHM though, as I see a lot more DET and SSpeed than I do CRIT.
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    So what do you reckon as an upgrading path from DL for SCH?
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    So what do you reckon as an upgrading path from DL for SCH?
    Going from a full DL set, I would recommend Relic body first, then either of the 90 head pieces. If you don't have either of them when you upgrade then downgrade to Warlock's hat from WP. Both of them together are still an upgrade from DL cowl. I myself am skipping the cowl entirely and going straight up from AF to Argute starting next week. Accursed 300 weekly cap...

    DL hands, legs, and feet are good for a while, though upgrade the hands to Allagan when you get the chance.

    Concerning Accessories, I would aim for full Hero's set. That CRIT man... If your CRIT gets too unbalanced with your DET though, you may want to look into some Allagan to compensate.

    Just my personal opinion. Naturally do not neglect shooting for the Omnilex +1, as that too requires three weeks of Mythology farming but will make the biggest gains. The only problem is what do you do while you wait for a half decent group to finally finish titan...
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    I started with the relic+1 because I had bought the items before I even started Titan so once I got the relic I made the +1 straight away
    But I wanted to get the body next but though you needed to get the hat as well as I though the AK/WP head would be a downgrade from the DL cowl
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    If you have the cowl I wouldn't get the AF body or head very quickly unless you can do both - you don't get a lot of benefit replacing just one of them over DL.

    If you haven't bought the cowl (perfectly possible to get through Titan w/o it) the body is a good upgrade even with an AK hat. Then get a Vanya hat to round it out.
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    Did some work for my fellow healers. Replaced Relic section in Head, Body, Hands, Legs, and Feet with Argute (SCH) and Cleric (WHM). WHMs should be able to more adequately compare their gear as well.

    Interesting thing I noticed: VIT, MND, and PIE are all iLV based stats and are set accordingly on each of the i90 pieces. Exceptions you will notice are a +5 bonus to PIE on Cleric's Circlet and Argute Boots. DET, CRIT, and SSp are (aside from the aforementioned exceptions) are your determining factors when comparing your i90 load out. Accessories too have this standard in VIT and MND, while PIE will alternate favor between the two options.
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    Just throwing it out there for factorage, Rose Gold accessories have a Mind cap of 7.

    (Can verify with a cheap 250ish gil Mind III, then get ready to meld the second Mind III, it will cap its benefits off at 7. Went to Mutamix afterward to remove).
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