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  1. #241
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    This game will earn some quick money for SE,
    & it will die fast, just like another WOW clone
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  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontide View Post
    I can't click like on the first post enough times.

    I guess there's something about the bit that Yoshi said about the MMO = theme park here. (I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier on this thread already by now.) ARR is safe and fun for whole family, both Magic Carpet Ride and the Winter Wonderland being within a few minutes' distance from each other at maximum. There are haunted houses and rollercoasters. Plenty of thrills that work really well at least once, but nothing that makes it feel like this is something of your own. You can pretty much take a ride on every device with a single wristband and that's it.

    While it's nice to see that I can achieve great things in FFXIV ARR without needing to devote a lot of my time to it, I'm starting to see the end on one of my characters already even at the slow pace I'm having. Nowadays it feels like convenience is achieved at the expense of making the MMO feel like an immersive virtual world. Killers and Achievers often remain happy in these environments, but Socializers and especially Explorers get less and less of what they would enjoy. Makes me sad, especially since I tend to lean heavily towards the two latter types.
    I enjoyed your metaphor, and i would like to add that i have similar, if not exact, thoughts.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontide View Post
    Nowadays it feels like convenience is achieved at the expense of making the MMO feel like an immersive virtual world. Killers and Achievers often remain happy in these environments, but Socializers and especially Explorers get less and less of what they would enjoy.
    Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. I also agree with Gramul\\\\\\'s posts.

    I want that immersive, deep, expansive wilderness experience. I don\\\\\\'t want claustrophobic, packed and cluttered zones.

    I want time to enjoy what is happening around me. I don\\\\\\'t want things to go by in a flash.

    I want a juicy stake. I\\\\\\'m sick of fast food.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shan View Post
    This game will earn some quick money for SE,
    & it will die fast, just like another WOW clone
    It's not even a WOW clone.. it's a mixture of Rifts Dynamic events, WOW's UI, FF Lore.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    It's not even a WOW clone.. it's a mixture of Rifts Dynamic events, WOW's UI, FF Lore.
    GW2 DE's were much better than the BS they pulled here which is boring as hell. GW2 was so fun with DEs! It was new...for me anyway. Loved it.
    They ruined it here, and it is trash. You need these "DE's" to level here because they made it that way.

    I feel like this game is a mix of....typical boring MMO with Final Fantasy slapped as the title. They did nothing different from other MMO's.
    Game's a step backwards....what different did they do from other MMO's? Nothing special sepct lousy Limit Breaks only useful to DPS.
    I don't even know what we are paying if:

    1. We have crap support.
    2. We do not get content on time and takes a long time to get it....at least throw us a few fun patches here and there and not all in one.
    2b. These events are laughable.
    3. It takes a long ass time to get ANYTHING fixed.
    4. We have an abundance of hackers/RMT's/lag craps.
    5. I may as well be at LoL with the rude people here.

    This is my first pay to play game I am paying on my own and when my mom bought Aion years ago, it was different and fun.
    Can't remember if I had RMT problems or hackings back then but it sure was better than this crap. It's F2P service tier.
    I'm still here because they somehow put my CC on auto-renewal. I was going to leave till 2.1 came.
    Seeing hints of future post I am hoping for: Personal Housing, Chocobo Breeding, Casino and Frontlines co.
    Just somethings other than fighting 10 different difficulties of a Primal. .__.

    Sorry to be an ass and all about this, but I expected more y'know? I remember being excited with Phase 3 and I bought my PS3 just to try it.
    I literally got the PS3 the day of Phase 3. [I got all the PS3 games I wanted to down the road since I net my first job woohoo!<3] but now I'm just disappointed with my first end-game and how...generic this game is. I hope for change.

    TL;DR: I LIKE PIE!
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    Last edited by Arriverderci; 11-17-2013 at 01:02 AM. Reason: More words post.

  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    -snip-
    Like I have said to everyone else, just unsub ( when your sub is up) and wait for content that suits your tastes. Complaining about it "repeatedly" won't change anything. Only wallets will and if enough wallets get taken from SE is when you will expect a change. with 600k+ subs and roughly 200-500 people on the forums complaining. I doubt I see a change. Not every game is for everyone, this seems to be one of them.

    I for one like the direction ( except FATES that needs an overhaul). and will continue to invest for the future of this potential game.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 11-17-2013 at 01:02 AM.

  7. #247
    Player Arriverderci's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Like I have said to everyone else, just unsub ( when your sub is up) and wait for content that suits your tastes. Complaining about it "repeatedly" won't change anything. Only wallets will and if enough wallets get taken from SE is when you will expect a change. with 600k+ subs and roughly 200-500 people on the forums complaining. I doubt I see a change. Not every game is for everyone, this seems to be one of them.

    I for one like the direction ( except FATES that needs an overhaul). and will continue to invest for the future of this potential game.
    Only wallets will huh? Say hi to 2.0.
    If there will not be change, this game is heading down the drain.
    It needs some sort of change because it's too "One way street".
    Like I said on the bottom part of posts, more filler things like the Chocobo thing..or hell, just minigames will be so much fun.
    Let us swim too, have underwater places in an expansion on such. Just...not repeat Primal 2392130 million levels.
    Too bad the minigames don't come till way long.

    Please note: Not everyone who "complains" about this game wants the game to die, they want it to flourish and grow a lot.
    No one wants a 1.0 again but they really need to do waaay better than what they are planning and willing to make changes instead
    of seeing constant "no no no no" post from devs.

    1 Example: Limit Breaks. We really need to give individual ones or make all of them useful. So it can be fun for everyone. Tanks rarely EVER have to use theirs, and Healers are a close 2nd. Make this game something different from others, just because it says Final Fantasy doesn't mean anything.
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    Last edited by Arriverderci; 11-17-2013 at 01:11 AM.

  8. #248
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    This is my first pay to play game I am paying on my own and when my mom bought Aion years ago, it was different and fun.
    Yeah, sadly as much as people love to mock it, XI really was one of the few P2P MMOs that was hugely successful and tried something different even if it was inspired by EQ, it at least felt like SE put love and attention into making it and to this date they're making updates in a timely manner and even splitting larger updates in 1 month intervals. It's a shame that it's so old school that they won't be able to properly revive it, but MMOs like XIV is the future and P2P for it is a risk when it's designed as a F2P MMO.

    People say XI had a huge RMT problem, but in all reality if you compile data from 2005-2010 you'll realize the actual problem were players (not RMT) botting, because there was even a saying, basically coined by BG themselves: "Everyone else bots so I may as well and we openly support it" and so on. So yeah, RMT didn't have a hold on XI as much as people say here. Now with XIV? This is what you call having a hold on an MMO the mere fact people are getting hacked even while online is already worse than many other MMOs out there including SE's other MMOs (this is their 4th..)

    The fact people said in XI "Windower makes it playable" kind of proves that RMT or not, the biggest problem ended up being players, since the "playability" was using things like Fill Mode, Wireframes, seeing internal and masked data (for a reason) something most players normally wouldn't need to see in an MMO. For all of its flaws, XI felt like an MMO, ARR feels more like a single player game trying to emulate an MMO which even then PSO/PSO2 did it better in many regards.
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  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
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    That's how you personally feel and I respect that. However, I do enjoy the game for what it is despite some things I dislike and have already expressed them on the forums. To me the good outweighs the bad.

    Whether someone hates or loves something is totally subjective. The only way to see if you/me or anyone is right about the game if wallets get drained from SE.

    It's not even about right or wrong, it's about personal tastes.

    Edit: Changing for 1 person will piss off another person. You can't make a game for everyone it's practically impossible ( right now in any game/MMO). So changing to meet your expectations will put another person in how you are feeling currently.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 11-17-2013 at 01:15 AM.

  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    That's how you personally feel and I respect that.
    You really do cling onto this saying when someone says anything other than a glowing review about XIV, huh? xD
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