FFXIV has lost it's magic

[Reslin]

Just think about what you are saying. 2-300k subscribers, paying their $12.99 (or whatever it is) every month. For 12 years.

You think XIV will be around in another 9 years? Or SWTOR? Or Rift?

That player retention is incredible. There are so few other games that can match or exceed it. WoW and EvE can. It made FFXI the most profitable game in SE's history, bar none.

Considering that SWG managed to last 8 years after crippling itself, alienating it's own fanbase, and continued to make mistake after mistake? Yes I do believe FF14 can last 9+ years and I do believe SWTOR will be around for awhile as well (considering it's been gaining players recently rather than losing them ever since it's gone F2P not that I play it anymore.) FF14 is the first mmo in a long time to raise in population a few months after launch rather than decrease. Also "Barely beat an 11 year old game." Not a valid argument, why? Most mmos these days have trouble getting 500k subs. Most fall around 130,000 and only go down from there so 600k subs is doing really well in the current market. It's too early to claim that FF14 isn't going to last 10 years this early in it's life. Especially considering that there's still parts in the world that FF14 hasn't launched in yet that can boost it's player base even further.

WoW is an anomaly and not the norm. Just as in the past is the same now. The best mmo's aside from WoW get around 500k subs. Most mmo's fall somewhere between 90,000-250,000. You try to do an old school mmo in the modern market and you end up going the route of Vanguard. 30,000 players within a few months.