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[B_Nighteye]

Not sure if everyone is missing it (unless I'm mistaken), but keep in mind that he is talking about the trial fight at level 20 when giving advice, not hard mode.

Yep. I was talking about the level 20 fight, but I'm thankful for all the advice nonetheless.

And I totally get that the other players may share some of the blame for the wipes I experienced. But from my perspective, if there was something I could have done to prevent a wipe, and I didn't do it, then that's on me. I need to learn how to save the day during those surprise situations.

[Zer0mr]

Not sure if everyone is missing it (unless I'm mistaken), but keep in mind that he is talking about the trial fight at level 20 when giving advice, not hard mode.

No, we all caught that. Which makes it even worse that the DPS need help on that nail. They have LB and many other tools to use other than try to blame the cnj for not DPS when they can't even stay out of damage zones.

[B_Nighteye]

No, we all caught that. Which makes it even worse that the DPS need help on that nail. They have LB and many other tools to use other than try to blame the cnj for not DPS when they can't even stay out of damage zones.

By "LB" you mean the Limit Break? I'm still not entirely sure how that works. Does it have to be one of the DPS who uses it?

(Sorry about asking such obvious noob questions.)

[Delvish]

By "LB" you mean the Limit Break? I'm still not entirely sure how that works. Does it have to be one of the DPS who uses it?

(Sorry about asking such obvious noob questions.)

Yes, LB means Limit Break, and no problem. Everyone has to learn at some point.

Little off topic, but good for you to know. Each class has its own category of limit break and each tier has differing power.
Tanks (WAR, PLD, GLD, MRD) = Defensive buff
Healer (SCH, WHM, CNJ) = Full heal. The only time you will probably ever use this is a T3 LB when everyone is dead. Instantly raises and full cures everyone.
Oddity (BRD, ARC) = Full heal, same as above.
Melee DPS (DRG, MNK, LNC, PGL) = Single target massive attack. This is what SHOULD be used on trial Ifrit's Nail.
Mage DPS (BLM, SMN, ACN, THM) = Ground target AoE massive attack. This is what should be used on hard mode Ifrit's Nails.

[hamsteak]

By "LB" you mean the Limit Break? I'm still not entirely sure how that works. Does it have to be one of the DPS who uses it?

(Sorry about asking such obvious noob questions.)

the limit break is different depending on who uses it and what bar it's at

gladiators and marauders put a defensive buff on all nearby party members for a short while (gets stronger for each bar)

conjurers, scholars, and archers do an aoe heal (at level 3 limit break it heals for full health and revives everyone in range)

arcanists (summoners) and thaumaturges do an aoe damage ability (gets stronger for each bar)

pugilists and lancers do a single target damage ability (gets stronger for each bar

[B_Nighteye]

Oh. Okay.

Thank you for the responses.

So assuming the Limit Break is ready, a melee DPS could use it to help quickly pop the Nail. Makes sense.

Of course, now I feel like an idiot for assuming that the people telling me what to do actually knew what they were doing.

Well, at least I know for the future.

[PetiteMalFleur]

You're a level 20 cnj. Your dps will mean very little and your party does not have the HP pool available to let them dip while you try to dot all the mobs and complete a dps rotation. Your priority is healing. If you are having to prioritize dps over healing then your other party members are undergeared for content or just completely clueless.

Why was the THM getting hit by ifrit's breath attack? I assume the tank was trying to help dps? Very bad idea. The tank does very little damage anyway and forcing dps to move to avoid attacks because ifrit got turned around actually lowers the dps on the nails the party could do. It sounds like this may be why your party could not dps the nails fast enough and not because you were doing your job, which is healing.

[Impurrrsive]

omg.. dun start another war here
the post here said that he finally realize healing is not an easy job
suddenly it become whether u should dps or not
dont hit according to target number whatsoever
bring the argument to the correct post

[Impurrrsive]

anyway its good that u have the initiative to feel what other class feels
me in the otherhand find dps class is hard becoz i'm healing in every mmo i played
so i respect all other dps and i respect tank more since i find it really hard

[B_Nighteye]

I used to play WoW, but strictly as ranged DPS. Never got the hang of melee, so tanking is something I know I couldn't do, and I have 100% respect for the people who do that job. But I've always been particularly amazed by great healers.

And I didn't mean to escalate a DPS argument. I've just been surprised at how much pressure some people put on healers, even in low-level dungeons. Guess I just had a couple bad DF groups.

Anyway, I ran Toto-Rak for the first time last night, and it went well. The last boss was crazy, but between cures, AOE heals, dispelling poison, DPSing pods, and handling the adds that were on top of me, I managed to keep everybody alive and we took him down. It was a great feeling.