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[Zormikal]

Started playing role of healer and have gotten to lvl 24 with groups made from use of duty.
I always thought healing would be easy job. Glad to say it is not.

After reading many posts here about healing and also do some dps. I decided to be the damage some but keep grp alive healer. Not easy to do but with practice im sure ill get it soon enough.

With duty you still meet ppl new to game so gear and knowledge not so good which makes role harder and with every grp comes a different challenge.

Point : Healing is not easy add dps even more challenging respect all healers in game !

[YanDere]

The problem is, most of people think the other jobs are easy.
So, as healer, most of the time you will party with people getting hit by aoes and not pulling enough aggro, then blaming you.
And this works for everyone.
Now, you are lv24, so I would suggest not to dps, it's useless in low level dungeons.
You don't need to dps even against Caduceus, maybe one of the 2 healers can dps a bit Titan, but I don't see why healers would dps.
You don't save time, so don't listen to who says healers should dps, just focus on healing and everything will be fine.
I'm really glad you could understand what healing is, most of Black Mages get to heal parties really bad because they don't understand that for a healer heal>damage.
Keep up with the good work and become a strong healer

[FinagleABagel]

You don't save time, so don't listen to who says healers should dps, just focus on healing and everything will be fine.
I'm really glad you could understand what healing is, most of Black Mages get to heal parties really bad because they don't understand that for a healer heal>damage.
Keep up with the good work and become a strong healer

I'm working real hard to not get belligerent with you. How much more data do you need to show that healers DO SIGNIFICANT DPS at end game? Granted, this guy is a lower level - the difference is going to be small and the total damage likely to be insignificant.

However, please - please - please stop spreading false information. Once you hit relic+DL you have the strongest DoTs in the game (sch). You have one of the best AoEs in the game (whm). When you run in a group like that and you aren't DPS'ing WP and AK you are doing something wrong. Period.

[YanDere]

I'm working real hard to not get belligerent with you.

If you want a calm discussion, I can talk with you, but don't get angry because healers are healing and not dpsing.
Yes, I can spam Holy (which is the SECOND more powerful attack after Flare), but I don't have Umbral Ice to instantly recover all my MPs, I will waste 500 MP out of 4000, and this is not what I want.
I tried to use Holy, and the difference is INSIGNIFICANT. Stop saying that Holy is powerful, because it's really slow and expensive, and this makes it really weak.
When you run WP or AK, using 9999 Stone II or not using it at all, DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING, the run time will be 30 sec less if you did it well, but if you dps so well then you are NOT healing.
I'm a healer, I heal. I make a 20 min speedrun of AK even without dpsing.
So, if in a lv50 istance dpsing is useless, wht should I say about lv24 dps healing? Just, heal. You (and your party) need nothing more.

[FinagleABagel]

Holy crap. I contribute at least 5 minutes on every single AK run I'm in.

Ok, so when I can run off, kill a set of mobs (by myself), while healing our tank who is killing another set of mobs - I'm not saving time? Give me a freaking break. I doubt you've seen any top tier healer in action. Take advantage of the overgear you *will* experience by the time you get a few ilevel 90 items.

Even when I didn't have massive overgear, I was contributing - particularly on bosses. You can't just constantly pull more mobs because there is a limit on AoE effectiveness (ie. Bane hits +3 targets).

You've got the toolkit, to not use it is ridiculous.

Your argument amounts to a telling a BLM to never sleep because his job is a DPS. Most jobs have a dotted role line. A healer can tank or DPS. A DPS can deal damage or support. The only role I'd argue has a solid line, is the tank.

[YanDere]

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Ooooh *clapclap* you can beat a set of enemies! Then, why don't you solo a whole dungeon? You're so skilled!
And how did you calculate those 5 minutes you contribute? Now it's you that have to give me a break.
Just buff your party with your pet and heal, you'll contribute much more than killing enemies by yourself. And if you really contribute for 5 five minutes less, then your party must REALLY suck and make 80 minutes runs of Sastasha.
Black Mages CAN Sleep enemies.
White Mages CAN dps.
Tanks CAN dps.
But none of these actions are actually a great gain in speed of the runs.

[Linkan]

Now I feel bad.
Because I have two monitors and I pretty much stay checking FB or watching youtube during AK except bosses :P
And this week ill get my new robes! Whoray!

[MXMoondoggie]

On a side note the DPS thing doesn't apply until Aurum Vale before that there is no real reason to DPS unless you want to. For lvl 50 content it definitely pays to DPS as a healer and it's more fulfilling to feel like you contributed even more to the team effort.

[Bigpurpleharness]

Yes, I can spam Holy (which is the SECOND more powerful attack after Flare), but I don't have Umbral Ice to instantly recover all my MPs, I will waste 500 MP out of 4000, and this is not what I want.
I tried to use Holy, and the difference is INSIGNIFICANT. Stop saying that Holy is powerful, because it's really slow and expensive, and this makes it really weak.

No, Holy is *the* best attack by most people's standards. Flare may have more potency but you're getting two off then you're done. Holy can be spammed 10 times in succession, easily. There's a reason some of the best speed runs are 3xWHM, PLD. Having Holy crit for 1.2k on multiple targets is not insignificant. If you hate DPSing as a healer, fine. Even ask for nerfs if you want so it really becomes insignificant, but saying spamming Holy isn't speeding up a SR tremendously is flat wrong.

EDIT due to char limit: Also, with a 3x WHM, PLD setup, you can do 1 pull, boss, 1 pull, boss, 1 pull, boss. DS regen x3 is more than enough to keep the tank topped off during each trash pull, and you have 3 benedictions as a crutch that aren't affected by cleric's stance. You really just have a, "I don't want to DPS" stance and instead of simply saying, "I'm a healer, I only want to heal, not DPS" you're trying to say what has been proven mathematically, anecdotally, and statistically true is incorrect because:

http://i.imgur.com/ZWw1pnc.jpg

It doesn't make you any less wrong, though.

You yourself stated a lot of times you're sitting there, and that's without even trying to DPS and heal both. Heck, let's go by your assumption you're only somehow going to get like 9 nukes off in a dungeon, and we'll say stone II's, not even using a swiftcast holy on a big pull before healing... 9x600 = 5400. Not a huge difference, but given you're still sitting there doing nothing more than DPSing... Now take that and say, ten runs of WP to cap for the week. 54,000 damage. Now multiply that by how many weeks you've been doing WP.

And that's using YOUR skewed, "OMG no one can DPS a good portion of a dungeon and heal!", which has been proven wrong. I would go so far to say any WHM who only gets off 9 Stone II's has a terrible group or really didn't want to try contributing to DPS, be it laziness, hating DPS, or whatever.

[Bigpurpleharness]

No, Holy is *the* best attack by most people's standards. Flare may have more potency but you're getting two off then you're done. Holy can be spammed 10 times in succession, easily. There's a reason some of the best speed runs are 3xWHM, PLD. Having Holy crit for 1.2k on multiple targets is not insignificant. If you hate DPSing as a healer, fine. Even ask for nerfs if you want so it really becomes insignificant, but saying spamming Holy isn't speeding up a SR tremendously is flat wrong.

Also, 9999 stone II's would be roughly 5,999,400 damage, as a small aside fact.