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    Player Wolfie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    im just telling you straight up why so many people disagree with you, apparently you dont want to listen. Im not saying your wrong for wanting to turn buying and selling into an instant text based game, im just telling you why a bunch of people might not want an instant text based game.

    There is also the exploitation issues that occur with instant trading, much like when the stock market had etrading, but those could probably be at least somewhat controled via heavy oversight and planning. The real issue is, what type of merchant game do you want to play, you prefer amazon, some people prefer the mall.

    and yeah its more MW is probably closer to buying things in a mall, and amazon is buying things online, but in the amazon case, the main downside is it isnt instant, in your case, you want to make amazon have instant, faster than going to the mall implications. I didnt mention your other examples cause i dont play those games.

    npc bazaar system, could be ok, but for me i always find rpgs more immesive and entertaining where you actually had towns, and shops, rather than the ones where you only had a back drop, then clicked shop and a portrait and items appeared, this is a matter opinion, not law.
    Rendering NPC shops doesn't prevent any kind of exploitation, though. That's all how the trading system is set up, which is independent of what's causing issues with MW.

    But if people insist on having shopping malls, then SE should add the amazon.com for the rest of us that don't like malls and we'll have our two separate systems. =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Rendering NPC shops doesn't prevent any kind of exploitation, though. That's all how the trading system is set up, which is independent of what's causing issues with MW.

    But if people insist on having shopping malls, then SE should add the amazon.com for the rest of us that don't like malls and we'll have our two separate systems. =D
    they could do this, as long as they had some downside to the amazon versus the mall. Like, the delivery taking longer. or heavy taxes. But in all honesty, i think right now they just want to have something that functions while they fix bigger things. i dont see MW or AH getting any major revisions anytime soon. They may focus on stability, or adding inventory or easy things, but thats about it for awhile Id say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    they could do this, as long as they had some downside to the amazon versus the mall.
    The fact that you have to artificially introduce "downsides" to the amazon method just proves its superiority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    The fact that you have to artificially introduce "downsides" to the amazon method just proves its superiority.
    its not superior, in real life it takes time. It also is set up by a private entity that had to build and maintain all those connections, not by the government (which in game life is SE) People also have to list their products on amazon, ship them to their buyers themselves.

    A game creates rules and models actual situations to be interesting, What you can create in an imaginary world that is most effecient is not usually fun for all.
    IE in any imaginary system i can just create things instantly, in a game that is entertaining you have to balance this with real rules that enhance the game in certain respects. For example, in FXIII you could access a shop from any save menu and instantly buy and sell, this was extremely effecient, it was also completely implausible, and non immersive.

    amazon with instant transmission of items is implausible. Nothing can compete with omniscience + instant transmission. Essentially you just want a text based selling system, thats fine, but dont say its a superior game mechanic, it is closer to an absence of game mechanic.
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