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    U'zholi Khem
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    Quote Originally Posted by varaville View Post
    If we are unable to do Turn4 for allagan pants/earrings for whatever reason, would the myth equivalents work? (at least temporarily?)

    and it sounds like there are mixed opinions on the belt...
    Even if I had the Allagan pants I'd use the myth ones instead (in a final set). Myth belt and legs are better than Allagan if you need the accuracy. And as a SMN, you do. People are just so in love with crit that they can't accept this fact.

    And personally I think crafted gear is completely worthless, especially considering we're getting an ilevel 80 set in one month. I am not spending money on gear that will barely last one month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zholi View Post
    Even if I had the Allagan pants I'd use the myth ones instead (in a final set). Myth belt and legs are better than Allagan if you need the accuracy. And as a SMN, you do. People are just so in love with crit that they can't accept this fact.

    And personally I think crafted gear is completely worthless, especially considering we're getting an ilevel 80 set in one month. I am not spending money on gear that will barely last one month.
    From my best estimate, you need 108 accuracy from your gear (449 total) to max out Garuda accuracy in Turn 5.

    With full Myth gear (head, body, hands, legs, feet, waist, neck, wrist, ring) and allagan ring/earring, you have 113 accuracy, more than you need.

    Using Myth legs and feet, you gain accuracy, but lose more damage than any other possible avenue of gaining that accuracy. For the legs, you gain 10 accuracy, but at the loss of 5.1 int worth of stats. For the feet, you gain 6 accuracy, but at the loss of 3.45 int worth of stats. These two sidegrades are by far the worst in terms of accuracy gained for damage lost.

    In order of most effective upgrade, it goes like this:

    Hero's Belt (replace Allagan) > Astral Ring (replace Hero's) > Rose Gold Earrings (replace Allagan) > Astral Bracelet (replace Hero's) > Astral Choker (replace Hero's) > Summoner's Trousers (replace Allagan) > Summoner's Thighboots (replace Allagan)

    So if you start with the BiS set from a damage perspective (myth head/body/hands/neck/wrist/ring + allagan pants/boots/earring/ring), you have 86 accuracy. Alright, 22 to go. Hero's Belt and Astral ring offer the best accuracy gains per int (stat worth) lost, for a +11 and +12 accuracy boost, respectively. That puts you 1 point over the accuracy cap for Garuda.

    So, as of now, the BiS set looks like this:

    Myth Head
    Myth Body
    Myth Hands
    Myth Waist
    Allagan Legs
    Allagan Feet
    Myth Neck
    Allagan Earrings
    Myth Bracelet
    Astral Ring (pentamelded for +12 crit, +3 accuracy)
    Allagan Ring

    Any other combination of items may result in sufficient accuracy to hit 100% on Garuda in Turn 5, but it would leave you with less DPS. There is no middle ground, there is no gray area. There is the best, then everything else.
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    Last edited by T0rin; 11-14-2013 at 01:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    From my best estimate...
    Astral Ring (pentamelded for +12 crit, +3 accuracy)
    Allagan Ring

    Any other combination of items may result in sufficient accuracy to hit 100% on Garuda in Turn 5, but it would leave you with less DPS. There is no middle ground, there is no gray area. There is the best, then everything else.
    Most of us can't get over a million gil to buy such ring.
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    Last edited by paradigmfellow; 11-14-2013 at 02:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradigmfellow View Post
    Most of us can't get over a million gil to buy such ring.
    Why not? Can't kill WP? AK? Philo mats aren't bought on your server? Can't level up crafting skills? Make items and sell them?

    I see little excuse for someone who is in the end game, to not be able to make money. It could be that someone doesn't _want_ to make money, but saying they _can't_ make money is definitely a falsehood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Why not? Can't kill WP? AK? Philo mats aren't bought on your server? Can't level up crafting skills? Make items and sell them?

    I see little excuse for someone who is in the end game, to not be able to make money. It could be that someone doesn't _want_ to make money, but saying they _can't_ make money is definitely a falsehood.

    Not everyone can be a multitasker. There are other more pressing matters, such as real life. Some of us have a full time job and go to grad school. Leveling crafts requires a huge investment of time that I just don't have time for. The philos I get are used for my other classes. The money I gain from the runs are not much. It would probably take a good 3 months to get to that point, if I logged in everyday and leveled crafts. By that time CT would be out and I could just run it to get my lvl 80 ring.
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