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  1. #91
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonjack View Post
    Out of curiosity since this was the only related thread I found, as a SMN if I WANTED to fully meld HQ Vanya Robe and Hat, what would be the best meld options? I have mostly DL for the rest of my gear. Any advice is appreciated! (I went this route so I could use my seals for my WHM Alt relic)
    Vanya Hat
    Savage Aim 2
    Heaven's Eye 3
    Heaven's Eye 3
    Heaven's Eye 2
    Savage Aim 1

    Vanya Robe
    Savage Aim 3
    Savage Aim 3
    Savage Aim 3
    Savage Aim 3
    Savage Aim 2
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  2. #92
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    Yukon Jack
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Thank you!
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  3. #93
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    Flippy Spontaneity
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    So here is my optimal myth progression order. This is taking into account that I don't plan on incorporating crafted gear till maybe afterward & that I have dl gear to work off of. Also that I don't have any Allagan yet.

    Wiyu +1* > SMN Hands* > Hero's Neck* > Hero's Bracelets* > SMN Body** > SMN Head** > Hero's Ring**
    *= Equip asap
    **= Wait to Equip

    Sites...
    The bc drop order to determine gear sequence.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...c&toomany=true

    This was nice to have a chart of the stat differences side by side. Make sure to click the THM/ACN/BLM/SMN Spoiler: Show in the 1st post.
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/118...ear-Comparison

    Zholi posted this a few pages back. It saved time totaling up stats & such.
    http://chocobro.com/sim.php

    This was good to know what the possible best in slot is.
    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/1508/BiS-SMN

    More BiS info.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...der=true&gid=7

    (Sorry for the multiple posts. The character limit caused me to break up the post.)
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    Last edited by Flips; 12-10-2013 at 08:46 PM.

  4. #94
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    Flippy Spontaneity
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    Why the above gear order...
    Wiyu +1 - Discussed pages ago.
    SMN Hands - For the extra acc..
    Hero's Neck - A. neck drops T5 so it's more likely to have to wait to get that piece & less likely the a. neck will be a temporary piece.
    Hero's Bracelets - A. bracelet drops T2 so it's more likely to get the a. bracelet as a temporary piece before the a. neck as a temporary piece.

    Now is when you start getting gear with your myths however you want to wait to equip these pieces till you can make up for the loss in acc.. Hopefully you'll have some a. pieces by this point & if not just hold onto the myth pieces till you do.

    SMN Body - A. body drops T2 so it's less likely to get this as a temporary piece rather than the a. head.
    SMN Head - A. head drops T1 so it's more likely to get a temporary a. head then getting a temporary allagan body.
    Hero's Ring - This piece you lose acc if you switch the dl ring or dem. ring for a hero's ring.
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    Last edited by Flips; 12-10-2013 at 07:15 PM.

  5. #95
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    Flippy Spontaneity
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    At this point if you haven't been able to get any allagan pieces then you might want to consider temporarily getting the smn legs. This scenario is until you can replace them with the allagan legs. Smn legs have 34 accuracy & thus allows you to wear some of the pieces that you already have. Or maybe temporarily using the hero's belt for a small acc. boost.

    I don't want to incorporate any crafted gear till after the myth & allagan pieces have been gathered. I don't think it's worth the gil to have something for a week or 2 then get your BiS & swap the gil piece out for that. Maybe it's just me. If there's some stats that I notice I'm lacking after everything is gathered I'll spend the gil & get a crafted piece to swap in. I mean with the exception of the temporary smn legs the gear in my order is all BiS so it's all needed sooner or later.
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    Last edited by Flips; 12-10-2013 at 09:01 PM.

  6. #96
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    If you'll notice I tried paying attention to acc.. Full dl gives you 435 acc. which is ok enough to enter bc. The acc. cap for yourself is maybe 437 & the accuracy cap for your pet is around 450. If all I cared about was getting acc. points then I would have just wore my demagogue rope & warlock's patterns at first since the waist & feet give a lot of accuracy. If I were to do this I would however be seriously be handy capping my damage so this is not the optimal choice. When I first hit 50 smn I didn't realize how much acc. effected things. Since this was the case I got my Wiyu +1 & then my smn body. I knew smn body was BiS & saw many people picking it second but I wish I would have waited getting it till later. The darklight body gives +43 acc. which is enormous & that piece should not be taken off till you can compensate for the acc.. I learned my mistake & that is why I wanted to make these posts so others wouldn't make the same mistake.
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    Last edited by Flips; 12-10-2013 at 07:11 PM.

  7. #97
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    Ticdup Unffunff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flips View Post
    Or maybe temporarily using the hero's belt for a small acc. boost.
    Why are you not considering Myth Belt to be best in slot? And as earlier mentioned in this thread, one piece of overmelded jewelry is best in slot.

    Edit-> I now see your BiS list. Which is viewed as being less overall dps than going for higher accuracy.
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    Last edited by ticdup; 12-11-2013 at 04:27 AM.

  8. #98
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    Luna Clear
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    There is no BiS for SMN currently. Nobody's done the math.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticdup View Post
    Why are you not considering Myth Belt to be best in slot? And as earlier mentioned in this thread, one piece of overmelded jewelry is best in slot.

    Edit-> I now see your BiS list. Which is viewed as being less overall dps than going for higher accuracy.
    I'll probably wear the hero's belt under instances where accuracy really helps get toward pet cap like T5 & use allagan belt for most of the time. That's why I have it in my notes following my list because I'm not too worried about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    There is no BiS for SMN currently. Nobody's done the math.
    Yeah it's a lot of he / she said which is why I said possible BiS & posted multiple BiS lists. We can't get figure out a BiS till we get some lucky person with multiple gear sets parse them. Even at that point the parses will still probably be broken when it comes to smn so who's to say what will happen. Best thing I can think of is Zholi's post for totaling up stats & using it to speculate.
    http://chocobro.com/sim.php
    Then again it has bugs & it's only for speculation purposes.
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    Last edited by Flips; 12-12-2013 at 07:13 AM.

  10. #100
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    Nimue Feithel
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Allagan Boots of Casting
    Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
    After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a


    So what's BiS now? :V
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