Summoner Question: Where should I spend my Myth tomes first?

[coffeerox]

*facepalm*

Yeah keep that palm attached to your face

A little off topic, and kinda depends on preferences. Would you upgrade relic+1 for several jobs before getting any AF2 pieces? Since allagan weapons do not come by readily?

For SEVERAL jobs? You do realize that's 900 a pop right? Each Relic you are upgrading you are getting more and more behind on AF2 for your main class. You upgrade ONE relic, then outfit your alts with Garuda weapons and Relic whenever you get the chance to go.

[PiperC]

A little off topic, and kinda depends on preferences. Would you upgrade relic+1 for several jobs before getting any AF2 pieces? Since allagan weapons do not come by readily?

I have alternate jobs however Summoner is my main and my priority as far as gearing is concerned. I wouldn't recommend doing that unless you're not looking to gear your Summoner as a priority. Considering AF2 Head, Body, and Gloves are considered BiS... I suppose if you'd rather balance out all your jobs and not pick 1 is up to you, but no I do not suggest it

[Crescent_Dusk]

It's mostly a pointless topic if he doesn't intend to tackle Turn 5 anytime soon. You can beat 1-4 purely in Darklight. So if Turn 5 is not an immediate possibility, feel free to gear your alts.

It just doesn't matter. 2.1 is December, and it will likely be till February/March for 2.2, which is when there will be actually content progressing from Turn 5. 2.1 is a hard mode dungeon and crystal tower, all likely below Turn 5 in difficulty and rewards.

You have a LONG, LONG time before you need to start worrying about being geared for the next difficulty tier.

[etcxxx]

I ended up getting both the tunic and gloves last night from turn 2 but it looks like I'll have to still end up getting the myth body and gloves. I'm currently using a demagogue mask, so should I upgrade to the myth helmet first? Or save the tomes until I can get chest first?

[Zholi]

I ended up getting both the tunic and gloves last night from turn 2 but it looks like I'll have to still end up getting the myth body and gloves. I'm currently using a demagogue mask, so should I upgrade to the myth helmet first? Or save the tomes until I can get chest first?

Get anything and everything with accuracy. I just checked your character on lodestone, and you have 365 accuracy, which is absolutely atrocious. You just lost the two main accuracy pieces in the Darklight set, and now you have basically none. I ran you through a simulator and it actually shows you with higher DPS in full Darklight. http://chocobro.com/sim.php Myth body is now very close to the bottom of your priority list. You probably want legs, belt, and head for a total boost of 60 accuracy, which would still leave you wanting a bit more, even then. You might also get the boots, but it would more than likely only be a temporary piece you'd want to replace with Allagan eventually, so i don't know if you'd want to spend myth there. It would, however, give you as much of an accuracy boost as myth gloves, but you wouldn't have to replace gear that's already i90.

[etcxxx]

Get anything and everything with accuracy. I just checked your character on lodestone, and you have 365 accuracy, which is absolutely atrocious. You just lost the two main accuracy pieces in the Darklight set, and now you have basically none. I ran you through a simulator and it actually shows you with higher DPS in full Darklight. http://chocobro.com/sim.php Myth body is now very close to the bottom of your priority list. You probably want legs, belt, and head for a total boost of 60 accuracy, which would still leave you wanting a bit more, even then. You might also get the boots, but it would more than likely only be a temporary piece you'd want to replace with Allagan eventually, so i don't know if you'd want to spend myth there. It would, however, give you as much of an accuracy boost as myth gloves, but you wouldn't have to replace gear that's already i90.

Thanks for the advice. I was really disappointed when I noticed the drop in accuracy.

[T0rin]

Have to step very carefully as an SMN moving out of Darklight. Since we have so much accuracy bundled up in the body slot, and our 2 options to replace it with i90 gear have none, you basically have to go out of your way to get the extra accuracy before you can even consider replacing the body slot. The i90 leg/feet/head slots all have accuracy, and that is where it needs to come from. Also, don't be in a hurry to ditch the DL jewelry (earrings/ring) with i90 pieces (which have 0 accuracy) until you are ready to eat the loss. If equipping a new piece of i90 ever puts you below 430 accuracy, I'd probably not do it.

[TraeSnow]

So from what I gather I shouldn't use AF+1 chest? (Or AF2 from what other people call it, I user af+1 though)

First thing I upgraded was relic to relic+1, mainly for the glow but hey more damage with sparkles is awesome.

I now have 950 myth and want to buy the af+1 chest and use demagogue hat until I get enough for the horn. Would this be a bad idea? I don't plan on doing Coil in the next few weeks, not due to laziness, I would love to try it but my FC is small and not a lot of geared people.

Currently I have full Darklight armor with a Myth Belt. I also have all DL Accessories and an Astral HQ Ring with Crit and Vit melds. Kevee mentioned I should be getting Myth acc but are they better than crafted HQ Accs if I max Accuracy/Crit on them in melds.
From my understanding, I thought BiS for SMN was Myth horn, doublet, gloves, then Coil Belt, Pants, Shoes. With Accessories that gave Crit/Acc. Is this not the case?

[xxalucard]

So from what I gather I shouldn't use AF+1 chest? (Or AF2 from what other people call it, I user af+1 though)

First thing I upgraded was relic to relic+1, mainly for the glow but hey more damage with sparkles is awesome.

I now have 950 myth and want to buy the af+1 chest and use demagogue hat until I get enough for the horn. Would this be a bad idea? I don't plan on doing Coil in the next few weeks, not due to laziness, I would love to try it but my FC is small and not a lot of geared people.

Currently I have full Darklight armor with a Myth Belt. I also have all DL Accessories and an Astral HQ Ring with Crit and Vit melds. Kevee mentioned I should be getting Myth acc but are they better than crafted HQ Accs if I max Accuracy/Crit on them in melds.
From my understanding, I thought BiS for SMN was Myth horn, doublet, gloves, then Coil Belt, Pants, Shoes. With Accessories that gave Crit/Acc. Is this not the case?

I went in a similar order myself (Relic +1 --> Ring --> Chest -->) which I believe is the one of the best starting orders you can do. You'll need the ring no matter what and the chest is a huge upgrade for Vit/INT/Crit (all important stats for turn 5). The other accessories have similar stats with the myth ones (in some cases both allagan and myth have the same crit bonus) so I would suggest holding off on buying them until you have the main 3 BiS body pieces (head / body / gloves) first. Of course if you get the caster allagan equivalents of them while you're saving up tomes, you're probably better off investing in them first.

Assuming you get no coil drops at all I would go Relic+1 --> Ring --> Chest --> Head --> Gloves --> Neck --> Bracelet. Between getting the chest and head piece you will have to compensate for the lack of accuracy with accuracy-melded astral / rosegold accessories (the earrings tend to be fairly cheap compared to the others) and food (such as hq stuffed cabbage). It's a bit expensive and people who are more into theory than experience would suggest against it because of the accuracy gap, but honestly I never had an issue with missing to the point that it made my group struggle at all with dps....in any turn (even turn 5 conflags).

It's really not worth it to waste your myth tomes on temporary accuracy upgrades like legs/boots as some suggested because eventually you will replace them with the allagan ones and then they will literally be useless. There's so many smarter alternatives to give yourself extra accuracy, and honestly if you don't have at least a few i90 body pieces you won't be ready for turn 5 anyway and that's the only place it could even be an issue.

[TraeSnow]

Well getting Myth belt was a mistake. I regret it but the reason I bought it was because a friend of mine who does Coil said I needed 475 Accuracy and I was at 436 or something. So I got the belt to help boost it, then I read that max accuracy for SMN/BLM was 435 (And 44X for Garuda) so I was a bit disappointed that I was mislead into getting that belt. :C I wish we could sell back Myth items for tomes QQ If I can sell it back I can get the stuff I need now.

Why is Myth ring so good? It has spell speed, isn't that a bad stat for SMN?