Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
Pretty sure most if not everyone disagreeing with you are just people refuting your over exageration on how weak/strong drg is, which you are.
This post is about the combined balance of DPS + Utility.
The gap between flat DPS may not be absolutely between a BRD and DRG, however the part that makes it unbalanced is BRD's large arsenal of utility. They are guarenteed a spot in any party simply because of their songs. They are also preferred DPS as they don't have to put themselves in high risk situations as often as a melee DPS.
The gap between DRG and MNK however is huge. This is not an exageration. The numbers in my previous post alone show this. If I were to do the true flank rotation (this isn't even optimal), my undergeared MNK would be parsing similar numbers to my near-full i90 DRG.

Just because another class does what they do well doesn't make them unbalanced,
Wait ... what?

Read that sentence again... Here let me re-word it for you to make it clearer to what this sounds like:
"Just because another DPS class is a better DPS then another, doesn't make them unbalanced."

Sorry but yes, it does. Why would anyone choose sub-optimal over optimal? Not only this, all current DPS offer more utility then DRG.

like I said before with black mage their damage & utility has always been that way even since FFXI this is just what they are high damage glass cannons with plenty of utility to compensate being so fragile(which I might add dragoons are not), in fact they are far more balanced in 2.0 than any other version(XI, XIV 1.0) as you no longer see people just stacking blms for almost literally everything.
To begin with, FFXIV isn't FFXI.
In addition to this, how does "BLM has always been strong, so it should stay strong." make any sense?
Their crowd control is absolutely superior to all other DPS classes. That alone is a reason to bring one along.
On top of this they have the highest AoE damage, the 2nd highest single target damage, and they do all of this out of harm's way - at range.

The balance between weaker physical defense, is quite simply that they don't have to be close to anything that hits them for physical damage.
If they do? Then they have Manawall (which is far superior to DRG's Keen Flurry equivalent), but Manawall isn't enough? Then BLM has Manaward which is effectively 30% HP boost when they are taking magic damage. The closest equivalent to that is Foresight - which on my PLD (which has much higher defense then DRG) equals to about a 7% damage taken reduction. On DRG? This equates to diddly squat.

Dragoon needs tweaks sure, but no they aren't weak, when I see one at the bottom of the dps parse in any given fight then maybe, just maybe I'll believe that.
You need to parse more, or play with DRG's that are actually equally geared and not overgeared in comparison.

But from where I see it, bard is usually the lowest out of any given geared party, but their mobility/songs make up for that. The only class that has an extreme balance skew is warrior at this moment, dragoon needs tweaks but it's not even close to the point where warrior currently is where you absolutely just can't take one in and end up struggling if you do when compared to paladin, in coil anyway.
Not sure where you got those numbers from but even facerolling trashy bosses in Praetorium - any scrub BRD that knows how to use their skills pushes higher then DRGs of equal gear.

As for Warrior, it works as an off-tank, while I agree doesn't really work as a MT most of the time. It is in a weird place at the moment - and is getting a buff to compensate for it. However DRG is in the same boat. It has lackluster DPS and next to no utility (aside from buffing BRD damage.. lol).