Quote Originally Posted by Kat_Manx View Post
Agreed, all of my casual friends are still in FFXIV, having fun, tons of things to do every single day without getting bored. Bye-bye hardcores. ^.-
You casuals are funny... when the next WoW expansion or the next "AWESOME LEET NEW WOW KILLER" mmo launches and the casuals run to the next shinny thing like they all do then what.

Game will have pushed away the hardcore players base because it is punishing people who want to play the game..... and the casuals will jump ship like they do in every single mmo since the beginning of the genre. The casual player base is the least stable portion of the player base.

On topic... if you do not want to pay for PVE get out of final fantasy and go play guild wars 2. Seriously this is a PVE focused mmo and while the devs want pvp they already stated PVE is completely separate and the focus.