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  1. #31
    Player GalaxyGirl's Avatar
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    Neko Ne
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    I'm on my phone so I don't have time for quotes, but I guess I read something wrong in your post, anyway, I compared with a whm who actually has 3 more level 90 pieces than me and has +1 and they were actually only healing about 60 more hp. It won't be what determines if you beat twin or not.
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    Last edited by GalaxyGirl; 11-26-2013 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl View Post
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    O.o

    I agree with the OP

    i'm laughing at people who gear their jobs based on the look vs the stats (and try to defend that as a legit play style)

    wait for vanity slots...lol

    i'm waiting for the allagan healing body not wasting myth on AF2 >.>
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  3. #33
    Player GalaxyGirl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    O.o

    I agree with the OP

    i'm laughing at people who gear their jobs based on the look vs the stats (and try to defend that as a legit play style)

    wait for vanity slots...lol

    i'm waiting for the allagan healing body not wasting myth on AF2 >.>
    That's not wasting 0_0 besides, couldn't you get both lul. Depending on coil drops is the worst thing you can do if you expect to clear coil anytime soon. (Before another nerf happens)

    Af1.5 and allagan robe both have very situational uses. And tbh, twin requires anything but over healing.
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    Camrahn Alchierard
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    It's hardly a waste. I love how people are acting like there is some tremendous stat difference between the two. Both are viable.
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  5. #35
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    Asuna Yuuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    O.o

    I agree with the OP

    i'm laughing at people who gear their jobs based on the look vs the stats (and try to defend that as a legit play style)

    wait for vanity slots...lol

    i'm waiting for the allagan healing body not wasting myth on AF2 >.>
    The reason why I did this is because currently the game is not challenging enough to push stats to the limit.

    Coils requires barely minimum.
    I did coil 1-3 with nothing but a Santa Suit, Santa Boots, a Flower Earrings, and an Ifrit Cane, combined with some AK + lv55 gear.
    Coil 4 was impossible with that gear, but I am able to heal Coil 4 without any problems whatsoever.
    Currently I only have Allagan Gloves, Allagan Earrings, all other pieces are from AK. Not a single piece of Darklight.

    So yeah... Stats doesn't matter as healer, currently.
    Once PVP comes along it will be another story.

    :::EDIT:::

    Stats when I first did Coils 1 to 3



    Stats when I did Coil 4 for the first time



    Yui is in Turn 5 now so Im getting some more Darklight gear for her this week.
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    Last edited by DivineAyumi; 11-10-2013 at 10:19 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CamAlch View Post
    It's hardly a waste. I love how people are acting like there is some tremendous stat difference between the two. Both are viable.
    I know right? Like the spell speed of af2 and determination on allagan body are gonna make a game changer in coil!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamAlch View Post
    It's hardly a waste. I love how people are acting like there is some tremendous stat difference between the two. Both are viable.
    I'm not arguing viability. I'm not saying these things are going to make or break your coil chances.

    To clarify for those who can't seem to understand, AF1.5 Body is less of an upgrade in most circumstances compared to Thyrus +1 even further validated by the fact that AF1.5 isn't BiS.

    That is all. Nothing arbitrary or aesthetic considered. Simple facts and data were used to come up with this conclusion and it even seems to be the choice majority of most end-game healers I know and from what I've seen from other servers and guilds. (Bluegarter included)

    Quote Originally Posted by DivineAyumi View Post
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    That's great and all that you did that to prove how little gear apparently matters (although a little context i.e group comp would have been nice) I run with a WAR in my group and I can tell you now that that gear setup for T1 would have never worked healing WAR lol. Out of curosity have you beaten T5 with your main? (unless Healer is your main...) I figured you must have considering how little "challenge" is in the game.
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    Last edited by Shiji; 11-10-2013 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullie View Post
    I know right? Like the spell speed of af2 and determination on allagan body are gonna make a game changer in coil!
    That's min/maxing. Even if it's a 0.1% HPS increase, it's still an increase.

    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl View Post
    Af1.5 and allagan robe both have very situational uses.
    Not really. DET is always a better stat for WHM than SS. There is, currently, no reason to ever use the AF1.5 body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiji View Post
    I'm not arguing viability. I'm not saying these things are going to make or break your coil chances.

    To clarify for those who can't seem to understand, AF1.5 Body is less of an upgrade in most circumstances compared to Thyrus +1 even further validated by the fact that AF1.5 isn't BiS.

    That is all. Nothing arbitrary or aesthetic considered. Simple facts and data were used to come up with this conclusion and it even seems to be the choice majority of most end-game healers I know and from what I've seen from other servers and guilds. (Bluegarter included)
    Right and you stated in your OP that this thread was based on your opinion. And I was simply stating mine regarding opting out for AF+1 instead of Allagan pieces because the conversation had headed in that direction. I get the point your making, and I don't disagree. But my last comment regarding viability wasn't so much directed at you, it was more so interned for the people who are making it seem like the two options are on opposite ends of the planet stat wise.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineAyumi View Post
    So yeah... Stats doesn't matter as healer, currently.
    I feel really sorry for your co-healer and your tanks.
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