Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Kolaina]

Make them a must have class in a group

this here, when people were first starting to reach end game, and due to the absolute easy mode of the story, many people have not figured out the mechanics of their class yet to be able to utilize them for max potential. this led to the delusion that bards were top dps, making groups believe they were a must have for smoother, more efficient runs. this idea you have here is exactly what started the people kicking and screaming for the bard nerf in the first place

a bow for a BRD is a secondary weapon, or is it possible to play a song with a bow? Hell no!

so as bard is an archers "job" class, the main class is still archer. taking away the bow as main weapon does not make sense here. and the relic bow is a harp.

as your "job" is dragoon, in which your specialty is to jump, how about they remove your lance and just give you a pogo stick?

[ZaelC]

this here, when people were first starting to reach end game, and due to the absolute easy mode of the story, many people have not figured out the mechanics of their class yet to be able to utilize them for max potential. this led to the delusion that bards were top dps, making groups believe they were a must have for smoother, more efficient runs. this idea you have here is exactly what started the people kicking and screaming for the bard nerf in the first place

I am not saying they are the top dps, I am saying they are one of the top dps, and the reward is far greater for almost doing nothing more than just spam a few buttons, not just dps, even healer/tanks are harder to use. They are supposed to be support and to 9 of 10 BRDs you have to ask them for support, some of them will tell you "No, my dps gets reduced"... And I don't know why should every other DPS needs to use their max potential to be in pair with a BRD that just spams a few buttons, or thats what I understand from your comment. But if you think I say this because I don't use my DRG well enough, I can always share with you my rotations.

I am talking about end-game. I beat C1 - C4 every week and as far as I know there isn't anything harder than coil. Just go to Mor Dhona or Wineport on Monday - Tuesday. In more than 6 weeks playing coil I haven't read even once "Coil group LF Melee DPS", the only thing you read when go there is "Coil group LF Ranged DPS" or "Coil group LF BARD" even when they already have 1 in the group. So this delusion is far greater than you think then, because even the coil groups know that more Ranged or more BRDs in the party make everything easier. I even have friends that changed to BRD because they were getting owned on their melees, yeah they suck as melees, but that doesn't change the fact that they switched to BRD to have everything easy done, and they get the job done as BRDs. That is the future of the 90% of the melee if nothing gets changed.

so as bard is an archers "job" class, the main class is still archer. taking away the bow as main weapon does not make sense here. and the relic bow is a harp.

as your "job" is dragoon, in which your specialty is to jump, how about they remove your lance and just give you a pogo stick?

Bard is supposed to play songs, even if you google "Bard" you will find alot of folks with a guitar!. That should be their primary weapon. Why did SE thought it was better to give him a bow that dps like a sniper rifle, well, I don't know, they can do whatever they like, its their game after all, but that doesn't mean its well done.

[RyuDragnier]

And I don't know why should every other DPS needs to use their max potential to be in pair with a BRD that just spams a few buttons, or thats what I understand from your comment. But if you think I say this because I don't use my DRG well enough, I can always share with you my rotations.

I laughed at this...hard. Usual battle involves a self-buff followed by a skill on our GCD constantly repeating (with different buffs, we can have around 7 of them on us), sometimes with Flaming Arrow instead of a buff, keeping up our 2 DoTs, using Quelling Strikes in case we're getting close to grabbing aggro, using Bloodletter whenever it procs (but between GCD skills), and using Misery's End when the enemy is close to death. There's no spamming of several buttons, we're having to use EVERYTHING to keep our DPS high enough.

[Kolaina]

Bard is supposed to play songs, even if you google "Bard" you will find alot of folks with a guitar!. That should be their primary weapon. Why did SE thought it was better to give him a bow that dps like a sniper rifle, well, I don't know, they can do whatever they like, its their game after all, but that doesn't mean its well done.

if you take a look at my avatar it says "main class archer", and i am a bard. what kind of archer would i be if my main weapon was a guitar? i already pull my harp out when i play songs. am i supposed to shoot my arrows with my guitar strings?
tell me what you find when you google dragoon. then lets switch your lance to a sabre, have you on a mount 100% of the time, unable to progress the game due to having to demount to speak with npcs etc etc. the fact here is i am an archer first. my weapon is a bow. your misconceptions on what you think a bard should be in game is saddening.