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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50

    Best Skills Rotation for PLD Speed Run WP?

    Anyone find a best Rotation to keep a lot of mob focus on you only? I heard just spam Flash, CoS and Spirit Within when off cool down, then Riot Combo to get back MP to spam flash more. This doesn't always work however and sometime few mob keep slipping by.

    I start pull with Shield Lob, Flash, CoS, Spirit Within, Spam Flash until half MP, Fast Blade, Riot Blade, Fast Blade, Riot Blade to get MP back, spam flash again until CoS and Spirit Within off cool down to use again.

    It is better to do Fast Blade -> Rage of Halone between target? This hold threat more, but run out of MP to Flash and too slow since there is too many mobs.


    I see Paladin hold 20+ Mob without losing much aggro, how are they doing this?
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Your DPS could just be trigger happy and need to pace themselves, DPS are just as responsible for their threat management as the tank is.
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    You will need Ballad up from the moment you pull but Flash spam will be sufficient to hold hate on everything. Ballad is key, without it holding that many mobs once you are out of MP becomes impossible.

    I personally do Flash > Fight or Flight > Flash > Bloodbath > Circle of Scorn (Should restore 200-400HP) > Flash spam forever.
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Spam flash, that's it.

    All I can think is that perhaps you don't have Relic + 1.
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    Rowln Starwind
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Spam flash, that's it.

    All I can think is that perhaps you don't have Relic + 1.
    The hell does relic +1 have to do with spamming flash while getting ballad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowln View Post
    The hell does relic +1 have to do with spamming flash while getting ballad?
    Flash enmity is effected by your weapon damage but it shouldn't be an issue regardless. With Ballad up spamming Flash will give you a decent threat margin to work with.
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    Veenare Darkwraith
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 70
    It hasn't been proven yet because we don't have enmity values visible to us but it is very likely STR and weapon damage determine flash strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skold View Post
    It hasn't been proven yet because we don't have enmity values visible to us but it is very likely STR and weapon damage determine flash strength.
    uh this is pretty easy to test, take you weapon off and flash a mob then have someone else hit it after and look at the scale of the enmity bar in the part frames if there's a difference with/without a weapon on it should be pretty obvious.
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    Rowln Starwind
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Flash enmity is effected by your weapon damage but it shouldn't be an issue regardless. With Ballad up spamming Flash will give you a decent threat margin to work with.
    I'd like to see some test results on that. Could give me a reason to get my +1 sword or buying more Valor/hero pieces.
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Its pretty obvious flash scales with weapon damage or strength or a combination. If it didn't Flash would either be SUPER OPed when you are undergeared, or next to useless when you are geared. You'll notice that it remains consistent with the rest of your enmity generation abilities as you gear up.

    Anywho - the only little tip I have over flash spamming with RB combo in between is that you should Shield Lob the crap out of any mob you can hit on the way (excluding the first buzzards and the Pug Pugil right after the first boss, as they may not aggro). Through tab targeting (really just the d-pad on my PS3 : D) I can hit probably 70-80% of the targets with a shield lob (which has a 3x aggro mod) before arriving at my flash spam point. This will give you a lead on those mobs that should help you out. If you have just having one mob get loose, I'd suggest an uncombo'd RoH, or a Provoke/Shield Lob combo if you need to back from range/quickly.
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    Last edited by Ehayte; 11-08-2013 at 12:11 AM. Reason: speling is hard!

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