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    Player
    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50

    Best Skills Rotation for PLD Speed Run WP?

    Anyone find a best Rotation to keep a lot of mob focus on you only? I heard just spam Flash, CoS and Spirit Within when off cool down, then Riot Combo to get back MP to spam flash more. This doesn't always work however and sometime few mob keep slipping by.

    I start pull with Shield Lob, Flash, CoS, Spirit Within, Spam Flash until half MP, Fast Blade, Riot Blade, Fast Blade, Riot Blade to get MP back, spam flash again until CoS and Spirit Within off cool down to use again.

    It is better to do Fast Blade -> Rage of Halone between target? This hold threat more, but run out of MP to Flash and too slow since there is too many mobs.


    I see Paladin hold 20+ Mob without losing much aggro, how are they doing this?
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Your DPS could just be trigger happy and need to pace themselves, DPS are just as responsible for their threat management as the tank is.
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    Final Boss
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Your DPS could just be trigger happy and need to pace themselves, DPS are just as responsible for their threat management as the tank is.
    I was just told by dps that its my responsible to maintain agro not theres.
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accolades View Post
    I was just told by dps that its my responsible to maintain agro not theres.
    Your DPS are thick in the head.
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    You will need Ballad up from the moment you pull but Flash spam will be sufficient to hold hate on everything. Ballad is key, without it holding that many mobs once you are out of MP becomes impossible.

    I personally do Flash > Fight or Flight > Flash > Bloodbath > Circle of Scorn (Should restore 200-400HP) > Flash spam forever.
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    Gaust Euler
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Spam flash, that's it.

    All I can think is that perhaps you don't have Relic + 1.
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    Rowln Starwind
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Spam flash, that's it.

    All I can think is that perhaps you don't have Relic + 1.
    The hell does relic +1 have to do with spamming flash while getting ballad?
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowln View Post
    The hell does relic +1 have to do with spamming flash while getting ballad?
    Flash enmity is effected by your weapon damage but it shouldn't be an issue regardless. With Ballad up spamming Flash will give you a decent threat margin to work with.
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    Rowln Starwind
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Flash enmity is effected by your weapon damage but it shouldn't be an issue regardless. With Ballad up spamming Flash will give you a decent threat margin to work with.
    I'd like to see some test results on that. Could give me a reason to get my +1 sword or buying more Valor/hero pieces.
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowln View Post
    I'd like to see some test results on that. Could give me a reason to get my +1 sword or buying more Valor/hero pieces.
    There has been theorycrafting done on it. Google it. Flash is affected by not only weapon dmg (as is all our threat) but by str as well. In my current gear I get ~750 enmity per flash on all mobs. You can see exact numbers if you go into turn 4 and flash a soldier since you take dmg equal to the enmity gain
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