ARR has 600k subscribers

[Tupsi]

Well Well, so much for the sinking ship.

It sold 1.45M copies also until September 30.

Info seen here:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...g-subscribers/

Funny thing is, people reported the 1.5 million number SE reported not too long as subs and fought against anyone who said otherwise. 600,000? Cute, now if they maintain it is gain more is the real test, FFXI held onto 500,000k from 750k peak for numerous years.

[Dannythm]

Funny thing is, people reported the 1.5 million number SE reported not too long as subs and fought against anyone who said otherwise. 600,000? Cute, now if they maintain it is gain more is the real test, FFXI held onto 500,000k from 750k peak for numerous years.

I think XI never got up to 750k, and, as the article says, the wording on japanese is that XIV has broke the previous record set from XI, which was 600k, so it has over 600k, but we don't know how much more.

I guess they'll give precise numbers by the end of the fiscal year.

[Abriael]

Funny thing is, people reported the 1.5 million number SE reported not too long as subs and fought against anyone who said otherwise. 600,000? Cute, now if they maintain it is gain more is the real test, FFXI held onto 500,000k from 750k peak for numerous years.

750k peak? The official presentation said FFXIV already broke FFXI's peak numbers.

And no one reported 1.5 millions as current subs, that I saw. Everywhere I saw it, it said "registrations".

[Huxer]

Funny thing is, people reported the 1.5 million number SE reported not too long as subs and fought against anyone who said otherwise. 600,000? Cute, now if they maintain it is gain more is the real test, FFXI held onto 500,000k from 750k peak for numerous years.

Yep this is completely made up numbers. It is not corroborated by the recent data SE company put forth and it is not corroborated by and previous releases by SE or any other source. So please don't just make crap up and try to present it as fact anymore.

[Alhanelem]

Funny thing is, people reported the 1.5 million number SE reported not too long as subs and fought against anyone who said otherwise. 600,000? Cute, now if they maintain it is gain more is the real test, FFXI held onto 500,000k from 750k peak for numerous years.

You always lose a lot of people after a launch's free trials end. ARR's retention rate is actually pretty high. Also, XI's peak was 500k, im not aware of it ever being 750k.

[Amberion]

You always lose a lot of people after a launch's free trials end. ARR's retention rate is actually pretty high. Also, XI's peak was 500k, im not aware of it ever being 750k.

While it is higher then XI. 500k subscribers back in 2003 is a lot better then 600-800k now. Still, have to say that 600k+ is good for a game that already failed once.

[amnie]

While it is higher then XI. 500k subscribers back in 2003 is a lot better then 600-800k now. Still, have to say that 600k+ is good for a game that already failed once.

how so? FFXI came out when the internet boom had just started and there were not nearly as many MMOs out as there are today. EVERY new MMO released struggles because people either stick to the established games with years of content OR they turn into MMO hoppers. 600k, especially for a game everyone claimed would be horrible until a week before the first wave of general beta invites (phase 2), is amazing. keep in mind we're talking about a game that had already have an extreeemly bad release and nobody expected it to recover from this except for a handful of playeres that never stopped trusting in SE.

so no, 600k in 2003 is indeed not a lot better than it is today. (and it didn't have the 600k in 2003, anyway)

[Amberion]

how so? FFXI came out when the internet boom had just started and there were not nearly as many MMOs out as there are today. EVERY new MMO released struggles because people either stick to the established games with years of content OR they turn into MMO hoppers. 600k, especially for a game everyone claimed would be horrible until a week before the first wave of general beta invites (phase 2), is amazing. keep in mind we're talking about a game that had already have an extreeemly bad release and nobody expected it to recover from this except for a handful of playeres that never stopped trusting in SE.

so no, 600k in 2003 is indeed not a lot better than it is today. (and it didn't have the 600k in 2003, anyway)

I did not say it had 600k in 2003, but 500k. While there where less MMOs out, there where also a lot less MMO players then. 500k of the MMORPG player base, was a big % back then.

[Reslin]

I did not say it had 600k in 2003, but 500k. While there where less MMOs out, there where also a lot less MMO players then. 500k of the MMORPG player base, was a big % back then.

600k is still big in this time. Most mmo's don't even breach 500k. FF14 has gained more subscribers than it's lost since launch. Most mmo's by now only lose active subscribers. WoW is an anomaly. Not the norm 500k only isn't impressive if it's normal for mmo's to have 500k or more. It isn't.

[Itazura]

I did not say it had 600k in 2003, but 500k. While there where less MMOs out, there where also a lot less MMO players then. 500k of the MMORPG player base, was a big % back then.

Still a little off; FF11 didn't break 500k until almost two years after launch, April of of 2004.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406072...vey/index.html

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While FF14 ARR's launch surpasses FF11's subscription gain both in speed and number, there were some pretty big differences in circumstances.
- FF14 AAR could draw from existing and past FF11 and FF14 customers, while FF11 had much less certain target market.
- FF11 was originally only released in Japan. (PS2 only wasn't an issue; there were nearly a PS2 in every Japanese household, not so much for PCs.) FF14 ARR, of course, hit Japan, Europe, and North America simultaneously at start.