So..to those of you saying the PS3 WAS NOT going to limit this game.

[BlackShroudMercs]

I believe this thread is the very definition of "yelling at a brick wall".

PC users you can be upset as you like, SE isn't going to get rid of us, and if they do it'll be years after the Ps4 has been out.

WHY people think that this should have been "PC onry" I cannot understand. Look at all the MMOs available to PC players, they don't NEED SE, but grateful PS3 players will gladly sub.

That's the point, SE is a business, and if you believe PC users alone can keep this game afloat you are sadly, mistaken.

So suck it up friends, its not as if we enjoy your complaining and blaming us for what a company decides to do. Its sickening tbh..

We all better learn to get along cause they aren't splitting us up, and they aren't dropping support for us either.

We're here, its clear, get used to it...

[AndytheRaven]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

Tell that to the FFXI subscribers who are still waiting for little things, cant even display more than 80 items cause it will cause lag. oh but that's a ps2 game well if memory serves correctly didn't they LIMIT the cat race butt cause of MEMORY issues, last i checked i still got plenty on my PC. And what was that one post the dev said about zooming camera out and making transparent would require more memory or something to that effect? Am sure there are more example if anyone else care to chip it. oh but its OK PS3 wouldn't limit a thing no worries

There is a reason they are making ADD-ON cause they don't want the same thing to happen as FFXI in which other people had to make "Windower" to make the game more playable.

Edit: well come to think of it wasn't my ffxi example also a issue of why they cant display all your items at once in this game?
anywho i don't mind playing with ps3 players, but to say it would limit that game is just plain stupid.

[gintoki88]

　* PS3版のUI用に割り当てられたメモリと処理が制約の限界に近いため、　　既存の他のUI表示処理やデータから贅肉を落としてメモリと処理の「隙間」を作り、　　なんとかフォーカスターゲット用の領域を捻出できないか試行錯誤しています。
　　（いわゆる「最適化」とよばれる作業です）
*The memory and process for the PS3 versions UI is near it’s limit, therefore we are working to create some memory and processing space by removing excess data from existing UI process, and going through trial and error process to try and get space for the focus target.
(Basically this is what we known as optimization)


sad... dont you think?
Limitations THIS EARLY

Releasing the game for the PS3 was A HUGE, HUGE mistake.

Could of sworn i saw someone else cry over this misunderstanding just before the game was released, its very simple to understand, they have to limit the ui for ps3 because its near the ps3 limit, therefore it is only limited on the ps3. This is also only found on the ps3 news area.

[Douten]

FFXIV:ARR Windows minimum requirement: 2GB RAM.

PS3 RAM: 256MB.

Because clearly 2GB RAM on the PC can do less than the 256MB on the PS3, amirite?

Besides falsely comparing the ram, as in PC needs it for OS, etc. while ps3 can dedicate it all into the game, that's not the point being made. The point is even if this game is for pc only there will be a minimum spec that they'll want to support and support until the end of the service. So no matter how powerful crazy fast pc upgrades come in the future they're not gonna abandon their initial spec, by adding content that's not playable on said machine, because not everyone will upgrade their pc.

[Skullcrusher]

Lolz, you're just another ignorant "PC master race" guy aren't you?

It was such a big mistake that nearly half(about 1/3 -1/2) the playerbase for the game is on the PS3. Yeah, it was such a terrible idea for Square to actually deliver on what they had promised for 1.0, but couldn't do because the game flopped hard.

Oh and while we're at it, FFXI was a big mistake for PS2, cause we totally didn't need that game to ever exist.

Pc master race. LOL WHAT??

Lets be realistic.
my recent pc that handles any game on ultra $1500
My ps3 that uses 7 year old ANCIENT hardware $300

Hmm, i wonder which of the 2 is better, i bet its the playstation........

Master race my ass,the ps3 is just a WAY INFERIOR product.

[Dliver]

　* PS3版のUI用に割り当てられたメモリと処理が制約の限界に近いため、　　既存の他のUI表示処理やデータから贅肉を落としてメモリと処理の「隙間」を作り、　　なんとかフォーカスターゲット用の領域を捻出できないか試行錯誤しています。
　　（いわゆる「最適化」とよばれる作業です）

I'm reading this as "Japanese devs are bad and should feel bad for being so bad."

If PS3 is limiting them, they should be ashamed that WoW and other MMOs can run so well on WalMart off-the-shelf comps with integrated graphics.

Once again, much is lost in translation with Square and they seem to care little or nothing for their non-Asian markets. I'm losing all patience with their incompetence and neglect.

[Krystalynn]

PS3 limitations have really hurt the game in my eyes. Zone-borders one of the worst offenders. I don't think 2.0 players understand the joy of what it is to have a fully open and unsegmented world. Able to walk in and out of a city at will. The city being there, in its entirety and not this broken off instanced mess. The engine no longer being able to be super sampled so everything is all shiny and full of artifacts. Smaller zones... WAY smaller zones... not only is the world segmented to deal with PS3 memory issues, but the zones themselves were shrunk dramatically. Anyone who doesn't think the PS3 is limiting the game, simply hasn't played 1.0.

I'm glad you guys are here, enjoying the game. I really am. I love the idea of consoles and PCs playing together. I want to see more games do it, but not at the cost of a better game. That's just, wrong.

[Skullcrusher]

It depends on your idea of game limitation.

Will it effect how much content we will get? Also PCs that are lower spec are also limiting the game. Where is your thread for them?

Low end pc's dont really matter, its still a pc. ALl they have to do is adjust their settings to run the game smoother

[Allyra]

PS3 limitations have really hurt the game in my eyes. Zone-borders one of the worst offenders. I don't think 2.0 players understand the joy of what it is to have a fully open and unsegmented world. Able to walk in and out of a city at will. The city being there, in its entirety and not this broken off instanced mess. The engine no longer being able to be super sampled so everything is all shiny and full of artifacts. Smaller zones... WAY smaller zones... not only is the world segmented to deal with PS3 memory issues, but the zones themselves were shrunk dramatically. Anyone who doesn't think the PS3 is limiting the game, simply hasn't played 1.0.

If you played 1.0 then you should know that adding zones has nothing to do with the ps3. 1.0 experienced SUPER latency issues for BOTH the PC and Ps3. They added zones to handle the load for both systems because of how graphic intensive the game is for most people's systems.

They also shrunk the zones because of time. They had to basically redo the whole world to handle people complaining about blades of grass and constant repeating rocks. If you think they were going to spend the time and resources to make it as big as 1.0 you are asking too much.

[Ksenia]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

This. They have their own client and Disc set. There is a reason people can mod graphics in online games. It's all client side.