So..to those of you saying the PS3 WAS NOT going to limit this game.

[Darkhaund]

　* PS3版のUI用に割り当てられたメモリと処理が制約の限界に近いため、　　既存の他のUI表示処理やデータから贅肉を落としてメモリと処理の「隙間」を作り、　　なんとかフォーカスターゲット用の領域を捻出できないか試行錯誤しています。
　　（いわゆる「最適化」とよばれる作業です）
*The memory and process for the PS3 versions UI is near it’s limit, therefore we are working to create some memory and processing space by removing excess data from existing UI process, and going through trial and error process to try and get space for the focus target.
(Basically this is what we known as optimization)


sad... dont you think?
Limitations THIS EARLY

Releasing the game for the PS3 was A HUGE, HUGE mistake.

[Claire_Ares]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

[Allyra]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

^

They are not going to limit PC stuff if a PS3 can't handle it, BUT they obviously have to work with ps3 limits on the ps3. Sounds like even the ps4 won't just be a port of the ps3 version, so we may find years down the line the ps4 getting things the ps3 doesn't have.

[Zfz]

^

They are not going to limit PC stuff if a PS3 can't handle it

They are already limiting the PC interface due to PS3 limitations.

1. See the dev post on why items are shown only with icons and no option with even a text-based list.
2. See the dev response on why our bag has to be displayed in tabs instead of everything in one go.

However it is perhaps not strictly accurate to say that PS3 is limiting PC. For #1 above, it is indeed PS3 limitations. For #2 above, though, it is because they want the game to run fine on 1280x720, hence everything must fit in that small space, even if you have 2550x1440. They simply don't care.

They do not allow better hardware to provide better functionality. Everyone is allowed only that which the worst spec can handle.

[Felis]

They are already limiting the PC interface due to PS3 limitations.

1. See the dev post on why items are shown only with icons and no option with even a text-based list.
2. See the dev response on why our bag has to be displayed in tabs instead of everything in one go.

However it is perhaps not strictly accurate to say that PS3 is limiting PC. For #1 above, it is indeed PS3 limitations. For #2 above, though, it is because they want the game to run fine on 1280x720, hence everything must fit in that small space, even if you have 2550x1440. They simply don't care.

They do not allow better hardware to provide better functionality. Everyone is allowed only that which the worst spec can handle.

Time limitation, not PS3 limitation

I think during beta Minagawa-san said they were going to implement this for Windows versions.
We can’t check the beta forums no more, but I think there are lots of tasks remaining.

Yes. There is a lot of things we would like to do but haven’t gotten around yet.
Like the 100 item display, or text base item display is still in the tasks. It hurts to not be able to announce the release timing at this time, but please wait until they get addressed.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520854

[Zfz]

Time limitation, not PS3 limitation
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520854

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1173638

There are two main reasons why we've made it so items in your inventory are displayed as an icon.
We want to maximize the display without taking up too much of the screen.
For ARR, displaying an icon uses way less memory than displaying a name.

Due to these reasons, we've adopted an icon display method for certain item display windows. We have a text-based method on our task list, but the timing for this is currently undecided.

The reason was both memory and display resolution. Both are shortcomings of the PS3 platform. (PS3 runs the game in 720p.)

[XzaviyrVL]

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They are not going to limit PC stuff if a PS3 can't handle it, BUT they obviously have to work with ps3 limits on the ps3. Sounds like even the ps4 won't just be a port of the ps3 version, so we may find years down the line the ps4 getting things the ps3 doesn't have.

(Completely irrelevant)Omg this signature!

[Kayo]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

LOL, my thoughts exactly.

P.S Makes me wonder if theyre doing this "optimization" for the vanity slot too, and/or the gear preview. If theyre having this much trouble with a simple focus target (usually just a name and healthbar UI) I dont see vanity slots and gear previews ever seeing the light of day on PS3.

[Ryans]

LOL, my thoughts exactly.

P.S Makes me wonder if theyre doing this "optimization" for the vanity slot too, and/or the gear preview. If theyre having this much trouble with a simple focus target (usually just a name and healthbar UI) I dont see vanity slots and gear previews ever seeing the light of day on PS3.

There isn't a link to the original thread this was posted in, but it was talking about how under the extreme circumstances of being a full alliance group (3 full parties with the possibility of adding 2 more players per party) and a focus target, the ps3 would start to have issues displaying all the information. Vanity slots won't be displayed in any way on the UI so it isn't a problem in terms of memory or processing power.

[AndytheRaven]

You realize that limitation only affects ps3 users right?

Tell that to the FFXI subscribers who are still waiting for little things, cant even display more than 80 items cause it will cause lag. oh but that's a ps2 game well if memory serves correctly didn't they LIMIT the cat race butt cause of MEMORY issues, last i checked i still got plenty on my PC. And what was that one post the dev said about zooming camera out and making transparent would require more memory or something to that effect? Am sure there are more example if anyone else care to chip it. oh but its OK PS3 wouldn't limit a thing no worries

There is a reason they are making ADD-ON cause they don't want the same thing to happen as FFXI in which other people had to make "Windower" to make the game more playable.

Edit: well come to think of it wasn't my ffxi example also a issue of why they cant display all your items at once in this game?
anywho i don't mind playing with ps3 players, but to say it would limit that game is just plain stupid.