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  1. #11
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    From what i've seen in dev letters etc, PVP will have unqiue abilities not available in PVE. And being that their is no open world PVP and their won't be, the two are completely independent of each other. If you want to PVP, go pvp, if not, don't and it won't affect you at all.
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    PVP will never be required but it will have unique gear and abilities. Yoshida hopes it will have the ability to reach the rank of 'eSports', but it will have 'no impact' on the PVE Progression (IE: PVP gear will NOT exceed current maximum gear).
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    Last edited by Johnist; 11-05-2013 at 10:54 PM. Reason: Spelling corrections (Stupid mobile keypad not getting some letters in)

  3. #13
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    As long as that .3 ms delay on xyz checking is there and the mechanics of this game are not client side checked, any chance of this game every being ESport worthy isn't going to happen.

    Someone reviewing this game for ESport admission will get hit by an AOE they were not in and be like "Umm, no way, not a worthy ESport Game" case dismissed.
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  4. #14
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    Hoping that PvP will have their own skill sets and abilities, and that they will be completely seperate from the PvE skill sets and abilities.
    Thus ensuring that the constant nerfs and buffs in PvP do not affect PvE content in any way (and vice versa).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dliver View Post
    From the comments I've read, they've said PvP doesn't really fit in with the Final Fantasy franchise and is being tolerated for market reasons.

    Which is a shame, since PvP is the cheapest content to make with the most reusability. It lets the players entertain themselves.

    I think the game is already losing subs due to the lack of PvP and the extremely narrow end-game.
    PvP is far from a big reason that lack of subs would occur in a game. If people pick up a strictly PvE game, for PvP, then get disappointed at a lack of PvP... I think it's understandable to just call them "stupid". That's like going into a store that only sells blue colored things, and complaining that they don't sell goods in red color. People don't sub for many reasons, often a combination of them. Most common is financial, work, or the game itself. Mind you, that last one isn't necessarily exclusive to content reasons, as this game could just be too slow-paced for them (nothing to do with content).

    Not saying lack of PvP doesn't have a hand in it, as you indicated with the narrow endgame mention, but it's far from significant. Even when PvP is introduced, I have a feeling that it's not gonna be what people think it is. At first (basically for a long while), it'll be 4v4 Arena/Team style PvP (for now). It's not gonna be a large scale (soloable) battleground, it'll be organized team play, just like your typical DF group. So... unless you do a pre-made, you're gonna be partnered with those people you find in random DF! Have fun! Thankfully, the system is supposed to match random vs random, and pre-made vs pre-made... I think. So I guess as dysfunctional as your random group might be, your opponents will likely be in the same boat.
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    The game wont be successful without PvP, despite what you guys want to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
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    One could also argue that the reason the store that sells only blue goods sees only so many customers is because it doesn't offer a wider variety of colors. That if they did more people would be interested in the store and check it out. If the products are good enough blue store might be profitable but with more variety it could even be more so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravehill View Post
    The game wont be successful without PvP, despite what you guys want to believe

    Even though FF11 was their most profitable game ever and didn't have real PVP? Sure. I can see wanting it, but it's naive to say it'll fail without it.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Even though FF11 was their most profitable game ever and didn't have real PVP? Sure. I can see wanting it, but it's naive to say it'll fail without it.
    FF11 came out in 2003.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    Final Fantasy is a STORY driven game and I hope it reamins that way.
    Iam one of those players that is not interested whatsoeer in pvp
    I am seriously hoping there is very little time spent on PvP. I'm not here to duke it out in a gladiatorial arena with a bunch of other players. I want more story, more world to explore, new monsters, new boss fights, and maybe some alternative story arcs, or something ... dare I say new. I'll never step into PvP so it just seems like a useless feature. I'd rather see personal housing before PvP.
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