Crafters only make money from other crafters this must end

[Xenor]

Another noob at its finest. #1 idea to kill market gj.

Coming from a douche who has been playing a couple of months.

If you had played 1.0 you'd understand how an economy works without bind on equip. I made an absolute fortune selling HQ weapons and these were weapons that had been in the game over a year. Of course this was because you couldn't pop out HQs one after the other, another major difference in this economy.

I can tell you now that no player with any sense is going to pay decent money for crafted gear when they have to toss it as soon as they get their allagan or AF+1 piece. Might be why your stuff is only selling to other crafters.

I don't even bother with crafting in ARR because the economy is trash for a crafter compared to that in 1.0. It's all generic trash with materia shoved in it to try make it look better than it is. I'm not going to say which is better because it's completely different. 1.0 was a crafter's market where you made big money quite easily if you were good at producing HQs, whereas ARR is a buyer's market because people don't need your stuff and your stuff is the same as everything else on the market boards. Just glad I made my money when the going was good.

[Wolf_Gang]

2.1 is supposed to expand the crafting market.

From my understanding, all PVP gear have to be crafted as well as most of housing items.

[Grailer]

I rarely spend any gil at market . So I have to think crafting is not very profitable.

The only thing I acutally bought from crafters was the weapon needed for doing Relic quest.

So crafting must really only be good for selling to other crafters.


Never needed to use potions food etc even doing coil etc. Would it make things easier maybe but they don't have potion that allows you to move out of AOE faster do they


The only way to make crafting work would be to make it essential part of obtaining gear in the game . Bosses should drop items needed to craft the best items , not the actual items themselves . Even that is a dead end market because once the person has
the item they don't need it twice .

Consumables equipment is where the money is at . Items that slowly breakdown to the point another one has to be made eventually. So that lvl 50 character is constantly farming for new gear forever .

[realmreborn]

I rarely spend any gil at market . So I have to think crafting is not very profitable.

The only thing I acutally bought from crafters was the weapon needed for doing Relic quest.

So crafting must really only be good for selling to other crafters.


Never needed to use potions food etc even doing coil etc. Would it make things easier maybe but they don't have potion that allows you to move out of AOE faster do they

Thats why they need to give crafters BLUE and Purple equality recipes to make weapons armors acc on par with those drop from dungeons or gotten from philo currency

[Ri_ri]

Thats why they need to give crafters BLUE and Purple equality recipes to make weapons armors acc on par with those drop from dungeons or gotten from philo currency

I'm pretty sure crafted gear is already better than Philo.

But they're at least four times more expensive, not worth the effort for most people when DL is sufficient.

[Grailer]

I'm pretty sure crafted gear is already better than Philo.

But they're at least four times more expensive, not worth the effort for most people when DL is sufficient.

And that is another thing , the amount of Gil obtained doing just combat is pathetic and most of my gil goes on repairs .

So how do we buy stuff if we don't have any gil to spend ?

[OldGeezer]

...I can tell you now that no player with any sense is going to pay decent money for crafted gear when they have to toss it as soon as they get their allagan or AF+1 piece. Might be why your stuff is only selling to other crafters.

And yet I've made as much money in 2.0 as I had in 1.0 with the 10% gil readjustment. You won't make killings but you will continue to make good money with the new economy.

[Kuvu]

And that is another thing , the amount of Gil obtained doing just combat is pathetic and most of my gil goes on repairs .

So how do we buy stuff if we don't have any gil to spend ?

The only influx of amounts of gil into the system are from crafters. They buy thy philo mats from the combat people and now with the prices dropping so much on the mats there is going to be a recession soon. Last week the crafters were paying 25 to 30k per mat this week your lucky to get 21k and they are bitching at paying that but i havnt noticed the crafted gear drop in price to equate the drop in mats, last week crafted was 500k plus this week is still the same but the mat prices have dropped.

You should not be forced to craft in a game if you dont want to and as it stands right now the only influx of cash in the system are the crafters. The way its going items wont be worth anything soon since crafters are only going to be the ones with any larg amounts of cash.

Something that would help a lot would be for the lvl 50 gear dropped in dungeons to be able to be sold on the market, that would generate cash for the combat people and then they could afford to buy crafted gear. Honestly how many people running WP and AK actually take the drops now, there isnt a reason to since you cant sell them, break them down and you dont need them to wear. I dont think i have ever played a game that all max lvl gear was untradeable , there have always been items you could sell to other players in this instance there is not anything you can sell but tome mats or HM runs...

[Grailer]

Something that would help a lot would be for the lvl 50 gear dropped in dungeons to be able to be sold on the market, that would generate cash for the combat people and then they could afford to buy crafted gear. Honestly how many people running WP and AK actually take the drops now, there isnt a reason to since you cant sell them, break them down and you dont need them to wear. I dont think i have ever played a game that all max lvl gear was untradeable , there have always been items you could sell to other players in this instance there is not anything you can sell but tome mats or HM runs...

So basically the game is broken .

[Sylve]

Currently max cap crafters make money by HQing items selling them to other crafters who leveking through triple leve quest, thats the main income for crafters, since most gear is gotten from dungs and currency buying crafted items is useless
My suggestion is let crafters make blue quality and epic items like rare items from odin or behemoth as rare mats

Am i the only one who facepalms when someone abbreviates 'Dungeon' to 'Dung'?