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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    It doesn't help that the gear you make, including HQ gear (from lvl 1-49) is weaker than dungeon drops. I got a level 41 green weapon from a dungeon and then made a level 43 hq weapon...The lvl 43 weapon had the same amount of damage as the green weapon that was two levels lower.
    It is because the lv 41 dungeon weapon is ilevel 43 and the lv 43 HQ weapon is also ilevel 43. But you can put in the HQ weapon stats that the dungeon weapon don't have.
    But yes, the current level speed don't encourage a lot to upgrade the gear with materia before level cap.
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    Loves Spooning
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    This thread is proof most of you "crafters" know nothing bout crafting and making money. I make about 500k+ profit a day with t2 hq sales on the market boards . Nobody has time to "work" for someone hqing leve items and melding. I laugh at all them shouts of craftersurre looking for work. Just look for current sells.... Then pm the person and let them know if they need other pieces from the set that you can make them at a cheaper price. It cost about 200-275k for 9 Philo items on my server. Convert it to a heavy Darksreel armor with 5 cheap accuracy +6 melds and resell it for 500k. Do this with many other items like full melded critical/vit rings and it's easy gil.
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    IGN: Loves Spooning

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    NovaUltimatum's Avatar
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    Nova Ultimatum
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 92
    I can't speak for all crafting classes, but I believe it's fair to expect Alchemists and Culinarians are going to see some useful profit streams when PvP comes out due to their expendable crafts.
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    Silver Healer
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I rarely spend any gil at market . So I have to think crafting is not very profitable.

    The only thing I acutally bought from crafters was the weapon needed for doing Relic quest.

    So crafting must really only be good for selling to other crafters.


    Never needed to use potions food etc even doing coil etc. Would it make things easier maybe but they don't have potion that allows you to move out of AOE faster do they


    The only way to make crafting work would be to make it essential part of obtaining gear in the game . Bosses should drop items needed to craft the best items , not the actual items themselves . Even that is a dead end market because once the person has
    the item they don't need it twice .

    Consumables equipment is where the money is at . Items that slowly breakdown to the point another one has to be made eventually. So that lvl 50 character is constantly farming for new gear forever .
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    Last edited by Grailer; 11-02-2013 at 06:26 AM.

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    realmreborn's Avatar
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    Big Butcher
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    I rarely spend any gil at market . So I have to think crafting is not very profitable.

    The only thing I acutally bought from crafters was the weapon needed for doing Relic quest.

    So crafting must really only be good for selling to other crafters.


    Never needed to use potions food etc even doing coil etc. Would it make things easier maybe but they don't have potion that allows you to move out of AOE faster do they

    Thats why they need to give crafters BLUE and Purple equality recipes to make weapons armors acc on par with those drop from dungeons or gotten from philo currency
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by realmreborn View Post
    Thats why they need to give crafters BLUE and Purple equality recipes to make weapons armors acc on par with those drop from dungeons or gotten from philo currency
    I'm pretty sure crafted gear is already better than Philo.

    But they're at least four times more expensive, not worth the effort for most people when DL is sufficient.
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    Silver Healer
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    I'm pretty sure crafted gear is already better than Philo.

    But they're at least four times more expensive, not worth the effort for most people when DL is sufficient.
    And that is another thing , the amount of Gil obtained doing just combat is pathetic and most of my gil goes on repairs .

    So how do we buy stuff if we don't have any gil to spend ?
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Get rid of bind on equip and I might start buying that expensive ilevel 70 gear. If I can't sell it back when I'm done with it I'm not buying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Get rid of bind on equip and I might start buying that expensive ilevel 70 gear. If I can't sell it back when I'm done with it I'm not buying it.
    Bind on equip is probably the only thing actually driving the market.
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    Loves Spooning
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Get rid of bind on equip and I might start buying that expensive ilevel 70 gear. If I can't sell it back when I'm done with it I'm not buying it.
    Another noob at its finest. #1 idea to kill market gj.
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