"You need Voice Chat to do Coil"

[TeaTimeBear]

I recall it actually being said by Yoshi-P in one of the live letters before launch that it was something that should be used to actually succeed at end game, but they left it out of the game as it is too easy to harass people in voice (and have no record of it in a log) and that it is only really useful/needed for a small amount of content (and content that only a subset of players will even do) and more bad could come of it then actual good. same reason given for no tells in instances (something that is also very useful in raids w/o voice).

I think that's ridiculous. Why? We get harassed by RMT on a daily basis, but we can block said tells or even channels.. So why not give the ability to block such with voice??? The needs of the many far outweigh the needs of one, having the option to choose and block or turn off makes far more sense to me.

[Astarica]

I think people require voice chat because they like to hear their own voice. Too lazy to type? You can just have the entire raid instruction macroed in a text and that takes considerably less effort to hit a macro than saying the same thing again, not to mention you don't have to repeat yourself if someone missed it. With the built in lag in this game, you're pretty much in a Matrix 'your man are already dead' if you need someone else to tell you there's something wrong with your character. You can pretty much just have common events with a sound effect macroed, like "Adds spawn <SE1>" and that's faster than saying the same thing. I realize most people don't have an exhausive bank of likely events in a raid so voice chat is useful there, but if you're serious about winning you'd have a bank of likely events in a raid already macroed because that's faster than saying the same thing.

[Dano]

it would be cool for the game to include some voice chat functions, its not available now, doesn't mean it wont be in the future so probably a good place to start is the feedback forums.

[Alhanelem]

SE doesn't want to deal with moderating it and players don't want to deal with mic spamming for general game activities. Most people only want to use voice chat where it's really valuable to have (e.g. coil), thus SE decided it would be best for people to use prviate VC.

[Gilraen]

I think that's ridiculous. Why? We get harassed by RMT on a daily basis, but we can block said tells or even channels.. So why not give the ability to block such with voice??? The needs of the many far outweigh the needs of one, having the option to choose and block or turn off makes far more sense to me.

Guess you haven't played many Xbox games, then. Verbal abuse may not be on your list of 'things that are a thing' but it's taken pretty seriously in other games. Take League of Legends, devs have literally banned players over verbal abuse, something that's been in gaming news repeatedly. And it's pretty much par for course to have people being abusive on Xbox Live. "But you can mute that person so /shrug" is fine and dandy but what if that person happens to be one of the people organizing the party? Mute them and lose half the strategy? You can't control who's going to be abusive and who's not so it's just better not to have it.

[Eekiki]

Yes voice chat is required just like communication is required just like group strategy is required, Coil is not meant for the pugs that like to type.

Not true. It makes communication easier, yes, but it is definitely NOT required.

[TrickedOutHoro]

Guess you haven't played many Xbox games, then. Verbal abuse may not be on your list of 'things that are a thing' but it's taken pretty seriously in other games. Take League of Legends, devs have literally banned players over verbal abuse, something that's been in gaming news repeatedly. And it's pretty much par for course to have people being abusive on Xbox Live. "But you can mute that person so /shrug" is fine and dandy but what if that person happens to be one of the people organizing the party? Mute them and lose half the strategy? You can't control who's going to be abusive and who's not so it's just better not to have it.

No, just no. That's laziness.

[InVizO]

Not true. It makes communication easier, yes, but it is definitely NOT required.

But it's required to run with me, and many others share the same view because chances are, having 1 or more players not in TS3 or vent is not only hurting the party's chance of success but also is harming the amount of time it will take to finish. People really can be that selfish to not download a simple APP for their smartphone to save everyone a headache?

The only valid excuse for not using VOIP in coil is that you have run and completed it before and is now on FARM status.

[TrickedOutHoro]

But it's required to run with me, and many others share the same view because chances are, having 1 or more players not in TS3 or vent is not only hurting the party's chance of success but also is harming the amount of time it will take to finish. People really can be that selfish to not download a simple APP for their smartphone to save everyone a headache?

The only valid excuse for not using VOIP in coil is that you have run and completed it before and is now on FARM status.

Or, you know, not having a device to use it on.

[InVizO]

Or, you know, not having a device to use it on.

Why are you subscribed and buying video games if you cannot afford a smartphone? They pay for themselves with their practicality a 100x over.